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Rubbing Alcohol? I'm scared.
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Hey everyone. My flatmate and me have been experimenting with these salvia leaves since they came. We came across http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=24597 and want to give it a try because it tastes ghastly and haven't had a tremendous amount of luck smoking these leaves (replaced bowl every hit for 3 lungfulls and barely felt anything compared to the chewing experience). Anyways, where I'm at its legal to sell to 190 proof everclear and for some stupid reason they dont carry the 151 proof he recommends in the guide. Since I am not old enough to purchase alcohol anyways, we decided to go with Plan B the rubbing alcohol. Thing is everyone tells us its toxic and how it was a bad idea cause its going to be on the blotters when they are finished. Granted we are diluting it with nearly 900mL of water then popping the filter in the oven for a minute or two. Still im totally nervous and scared now that when we drop the blotters im gonna get like oral toxicity from the alcohol and bad news is gonna go down. Can anyone shed some light on the possible safety or not so safe of our decision? Thanks!


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Re: Rubbing Alcohol? I'm scared. [Re: Complex]
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horrible idea.  i'd be scared too.  just chew a big quid and smoke 10 salvia joints in a row you'll be set.

homeless ppl will buy you alcohol if they don't steal your money first :lol:

Edited by sleepy (04/22/08 06:07 PM)

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Re: Rubbing Alcohol? I'm scared. [Re: sleepy]
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ugh thought so.  I wonder why he suggested in the guide then? :discodance:


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Re: Rubbing Alcohol? I'm scared. [Re: sleepy]
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The solvent will completely evaporate while its drying in the oven, This is sorta how i make bud blotters so dont be worried about killing yourself cause you be fine, just make sure you dont smell any sovlent on the final blotters


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Re: Rubbing Alcohol? I'm scared. [Re: Complex]
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If it's pure isopropyl alcohol, it will evaporate 100%. A quick test you can do is pour some on clean glass and see if it leaves a residue when it dries.

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Re: Rubbing Alcohol? I'm scared. [Re: Gumby]
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thats was my argument, not only that but wouldnt the small time in the oven cause it to burn out to?


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Re: Rubbing Alcohol? I'm scared. [Re: Complex]
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Burning, by your definition, and evaporating are the same thing. If you try to "burn off" the IPA in a gas oven you may be looking at an explosion. Only use an electric stove with the windows open. Out doors is even better.

Edit: same case with everclear... both IPA and ethanol can become explosive in vapor form.

Edited by Gumby (04/22/08 06:17 PM)

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Re: Rubbing Alcohol? I'm scared. [Re: Complex]
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eh, isn't rubbing alcohol made in order to put on cuts to kill germs? its not meant for ingestion, therefore they dont have to follow any type of purity standards, there could be anything in it.

can't he use naptha or whatnot?

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Re: Rubbing Alcohol? I'm scared. [Re: sleepy]
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Crappy quality naptha can have even more impurities that IPA, in my experience.

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Re: Rubbing Alcohol? I'm scared. [Re: sleepy]
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Naphtha isn't meant for consumption either :tongue2:

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Re: Rubbing Alcohol? I'm scared. [Re: sleepy]
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an explosion you say? It'll be in there for 2 mins at about 300 degrees after 10 hours of sitting and then diluting the 100mL of IPA with just water then poured through a tea strainer into the coffee filter. The last thing i wanna do is blow up the place, sounds safe?


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Re: Rubbing Alcohol? I'm scared. [Re: Stizzle]
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Stizzle said:
Naphtha isn't meant for consumption either :tongue2:


i didn't think of that
Iso-alcohol has poisons specifically added to prevent consumption though.  do those evaporate?

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Re: Rubbing Alcohol? I'm scared. [Re: Complex]
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Complex said:
an explosion you say? It'll be in there for 2 mins at about 300 degrees after 10 hours of sitting and then diluting the 100mL of IPA with just water then poured through a tea strainer into the coffee filter. The last thing i wanna do is blow up the place, sounds safe?


it doesn't matter how long its been sitting. it matters how much alcohol fumes build up and if a spark ignites it.

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Re: Rubbing Alcohol? I'm scared. [Re: Complex]
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you can eliminate the risk of explosion by doing a cold evaporation, just put it in a wide mouth jar and put a fan right next to it on high speed

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Re: Rubbing Alcohol? I'm scared. [Re: sleepy]
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So while im letting the solution sit, should I open the jar its in or keep it closed, if the alcohol is evaporating and the jar is closed, wouldnt it just condense on the sides?


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Re: Rubbing Alcohol? I'm scared. [Re: Complex]
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it doesnt effect the chemical reaction whether you cover it or not, although i would reccomend to cover it, i dunno why though.

after its done mixing the fan will evaporate it right quick

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Re: Rubbing Alcohol? I'm scared. [Re: Complex]
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how long do you recommend i sit it by the fan?


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Re: Rubbing Alcohol? I'm scared. [Re: Complex]
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depends on how much liquid is in there and how wide the mouth is and how well the air is getting exchanged, but i'd say 5.45 hours.:bongload:

just set it up before you go to bed and see how it is in the morning.

Edited by sleepy (04/22/08 07:45 PM)

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Re: Rubbing Alcohol? I'm scared. [Re: sleepy]
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ugh that seems like a long time compared to 2 mins in the oven, which is electric i discovered.


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Re: Rubbing Alcohol? I'm scared. [Re: Complex]
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its your life  :bye:  :goodluck:

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