...because that's all you'll get here on the Hunting forum. I live one state east of you and have searched all over this forum for info and posted a couple times... found zero info, other than some old posts from other people in this area asking...

I have *anecdotal* reports from an honest, albeit not mushroom-educated, friend of mine who lived down near N. Albany... he says a friend of his came down from Michigan several years ago to search the cow pastures and went home with a trash bag full of shrooms.

I don't know whether to believe that or not, but with mushroom hunting being such a pleasant excuse for a walk anyway, I'm sure I'll be out searching perhaps in the spring, definitely in the fall.

If you read ID books, they all claim that dung-loving types don't exist around here... but if you read any of Stamet's stuff, he often makes the argument for how fast magic mushrooms have spread since the late 60's, expanding their "natural" habitat simply because they are transported and cultivated in so many new geographic locations all the time... and because mushrooms adapt quickly to new environments.

So it's not impossible that they could've spread to this area... (fingers crossed).

The thread below, "Countries and States with..." has a bit of info on this area, but the post is so super long, it's hard to locate... Mushroom John claims that Pan. Papillionus (or something like that) can be found around here, but all accounts I've read of that shroom in ID books claims that it isn't an active hallucinogen.

I've often wished someone would at least post something like "well, I don't think shrooms grow where you are, BUT, if I were you and were determined to look, HERE'S when and where I would try in your area..." But everyone's super busy, I understand that.

So I guess in our situation, it's time to be pioneers... and maybe even report to Mushroom John the first ever cubensis (or whatever) in the Midwest!

So when spring rolls around, get out there and look on a warm day after some rain.

GT

Another anecdotal tidbit... a couple months back people were discussing potency of outdoors vs. indoors shrooms, and Ryche Hawk (one of the big dogs here) said in passing that his best trip ever was on shrooms picked outdoors, and guess what? He was told they had been picked in Indiana!

Once again, who knows whether to believe it... but it's encouraging at the very least.

GT

Now Panaeolus papilionaceus is probnably a synonym for Panaeolus subbalteatus. It is not the mushroom described by Stamets,, who has written one of the best Psilocybian guidebooks ever, albeit, he has added many shrooms which are related to psychoactive species yet are not really psychoactive, some of the Panaeolus and all the Stropharia's except P. cubensis which he describes as Psilocybe.

Good luck. Maybe some libs in Norther Illinois. IT is possibnle. Because they aree in Minnesota, Wisconsin and Northern Michigan to New York.

Mj