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InvisiblePrellgott
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Re: Perpetuation of Mycelium?
    #73460 - 01/31/00 07:15 AM (24 years, 1 month ago)

...try...if it works post some results


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Re: Perpetuation of Mycelium? [Re: Prellgott]
    #73462 - 01/31/00 07:19 AM (24 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, you may revolutionize the way us myco-hacks grow our shrooms. (c:

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Re: Perpetuation of Mycelium? [Re: Prellgott]
    #73463 - 02/01/00 09:08 PM (24 years, 29 days ago)

I certainly am gonna try, but I'm almost absolutely sure that you could get at least 1 more flush out of your trays if you add a 2nd casing (1/4 at least) of wet verm. I'm just saying that whats that...like 3cents to try this? Its probably the most inexpensive experiment you'll ever do.

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Re: Perpetuation of Mycelium? [Re: Prellgott]
    #73464 - 02/04/00 01:15 PM (24 years, 27 days ago)

If more flushes is your goal, why not use a thicker spawn layer. I used a 4" cultivated rye layer and got 6 strong flushes back to back. As you stated in your original post, once the food supply is exhausted, you must start again. However, I once threw some exausted substrate into my outdoor composter, and the mycelium spread rapidly and fruited some huge shrooms.


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Re: Perpetuation of Mycelium? [Re: Prellgott]
    #73465 - 02/04/00 04:07 PM (24 years, 26 days ago)

In theory this idea sounds great. But i'm afraid in reality adding more and more water won't really increase flushes (if your casing right) but you could try sterilizing a casing mixed with some substrate then recase.


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Re: Perpetuation of Mycelium? [Re: Prellgott]
    #73466 - 02/08/00 11:33 PM (24 years, 22 days ago)

I've been thinking about this, and howz about instead of plain old water, try honey water, or malt water or potato water. That way the mycelium has more nutrients to use and it should flush more, right? Like a glucose-water IV drip.


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Re: Perpetuation of Mycelium? [Re: Prellgott]
    #73467 - 02/09/00 01:29 AM (24 years, 22 days ago)

This is a technique that has been tried, and it works... to a point. Overall I think the same goal is reached by watering the casing between flushes, but whatever.... now, onto the more interesting idea of adding to the food supply.

This is a valid idea, though I think using honey/malt water wouldn't work all that well. The problem with malt/honey, etc. is their basically glucose, a very quickly eatable food source. Perfect for invaders to catch ahold of. What you may consider is after getting a couple of solid flushes embedding your cake/casing in some zoo doo, or pasteurized straw. Bulking post a couple flushes is a good way to wrap your head around bulking without loosing your whole crop while you get it right.

I've tried bulking successfully several times with Pan Trops, but I got it wrong many times before I got it right, so keep this in mind.

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Re: Perpetuation of Mycelium? [Re: Prellgott]
    #73468 - 02/08/00 10:30 PM (24 years, 22 days ago)

wouldn't it be possible to add more of a nutrient base like quinoa into the new casings? that way it would allow for the mycellium to grow and have more food and if they grow fast enough there should be no contams.


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Re: Perpetuation of Mycelium? [Re: Prellgott]
    #73469 - 02/12/00 07:55 PM (24 years, 18 days ago)

Recycling the mycelium works fine the first time and less so after that, basically the yield drops quite a lot for the same input of effort so it isn't really worth it. If you have some spare growth substrate to toss the good bits in then by all means go for it - otherwise it's probably not really worth it.


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