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Atlanta GA, Trying to ban hip-hop style jeans.
    #7329318 - 08/24/07 12:27 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I saw this on tv this morning and just found a similar article on this site. What the fuck are these people thinking. Spend your time and money on something important. This is the worst case of legistlation I have heard in a long time.

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Atlanta declares war on hip-hop-style trousers
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article2321501.ece



Race, fashion and freedom of expression have collided in Atlanta this week over the vexed issue of baggy trousers.

A black councilman wants to ban the "low-rider" style — a figment of hip-hop culture — because it often exposes a man's underwear or a woman's thong, but has come up against a blast of opposition from civil rights groups and ordinary, fashion-free Americans.

Councilman C T Martin described the popular phenomenon of drooping jeans as an “epidemic” that is becoming a “major concern” across the United States. His proposal for a ban follows similar measures in a series of small towns in Louisiana.

Announcing his proposed amendment to the city's indecency laws, Mr Martin said of the fallen waistline, most prevalent among young black men and women: “Little children see it and want to adopt it, thinking it's the 'in thing'. I don't want young people thinking that half-dressing is the way to go. I want them to think about their future.”

Mr Martin's plan, for which he hopes to gain support in a series of public meetings at community groups and churches, will receive its first official hearing next Tuesday at a meeting of the city's public safety committee.

There, Mr Martin will recommend that “the indecent exposure of his or her undergarments” should be illegal in a public place, in the same way as sex and the exposure or fondling of genitals. It would be punishable by a fine.

But Mr Martin, a college recruitment consultant, has already ensured himself a wave of opposition by acknowledging the racial sensitivity of his proposal. “It will be like all the discussions we’ve had around the value of the hip-hop culture," he said. "We know there are First Amendment issues... and some will say I’m just trying to put young black men in jail, but it’s going to be fines.”

Debbie Seagraves, head of the local branch of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), said the proposal was, by its nature, discriminatory because it aimed to forbid something that has its roots in black culture.

“This is a racial profiling bill that promotes and establishes a framework for an additional type of racial profiling,” she told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Ms Seagraves said the proposal was also overly broad, and would outlaw the thongs visible under trousers, jogging bras or stray straps here and there.

Mr Martin's idea, quickly dubbed the "bad jeans law" on American television bulletins last night, follows a string of similar ordinances in Louisiana, where the town of Delcambre now punishes glimpses of underwear with fines of up to $500 or six months in prison.

It is thought to have little chance of success in Atlanta, a city of 4 million people, where the reaction to the proposal has been, at best, mixed. In comments posted on the website of The Atlanta Journal-Constitution readers described the ban as "like banning stupidity".

"The fact that Atlanta has to pass a law against this simply telegraphs to the country that its a city that continues to devolve rather than evolve. Panhandling and saggy pants, the Atlanta tourist experience," posted one reader calling themselves "Shirley U Jest".

There was support for the proposal, but some of it not entirely wholesome. "Personally, I believe any woman who has a bra strap exposed should be arrested, fined, and jailed if unable to pay the fine in five business days," wrote another reader, "Dave". "This will encourage free boobing, which is tres cool from my point of view. Just an observation..."


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Re: Atlanta GA, Trying to ban hip-hop style jeans. [Re: daytripper05]
    #7329329 - 08/24/07 12:30 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

hahahha

man I'm glad I don't live in the atl


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Re: Atlanta GA, Trying to ban hip-hop style jeans. [Re: daytripper05]
    #7329333 - 08/24/07 12:32 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

That's so asinine it's hilarious.


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Re: Atlanta GA, Trying to ban hip-hop style jeans. [Re: daytripper05]
    #7329340 - 08/24/07 12:34 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Announcing his proposed amendment to the city's indecency laws, Mr Martin said of the fallen waistline, most prevalent among young black men and women: “Little children see it and want to adopt it, thinking it's the 'in thing'. I don't want young people thinking that half-dressing is the way to go. I want them to think about their future.”




This is my favorite part of the article. When the children bring their waistband up to their waist, they're going to gain the sudden desire to further their education and get a high paying career? That's fucking magical.

Reducing the number of people's boxers kids see on a day to day basis in Atlanta isn't going to cause these kids to start thinking about their future. Nothing will make these kids start thinking about their future until Atlanta finally decides to clean up the ghetto and gives these kids some hope.

But that's too much work. "Let's make some frivolous law that everyone will ignore and go have lunch." seems to be the attitude here.

Good job Atlanta.


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Re: Atlanta GA, Trying to ban hip-hop style jeans. [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7329343 - 08/24/07 12:35 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

the last line in the article rules, haha

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Re: Atlanta GA, Trying to ban hip-hop style jeans. [Re: Angered Roach]
    #7329345 - 08/24/07 12:36 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Hahah

"Mom, dad, I've been doing a lot of thinking since I started wearing my droopy pants. I don't think college is for me."


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Re: Atlanta GA, Trying to ban hip-hop style jeans. [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7329349 - 08/24/07 12:38 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

"I - I guess I'd just rather feel the breeze on my bottom than read a book."


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Re: Atlanta GA, Trying to ban hip-hop style jeans. [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7329355 - 08/24/07 12:39 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

:lol: :rofl2:

I saw this on Good Morning America this morning. I turned my tv on, didn't have time to change the channel, and I saw this. Fucking idiot people. The person behind it is black to...apparently he wants to define what be a black american is....hinting at making them all less "ghetto".


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Re: Atlanta GA, Trying to ban hip-hop style jeans. [Re: Angered Roach]
    #7329357 - 08/24/07 12:41 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

haha this ordinance is actually in use in some places?? lolzorsz

Wheres the law against idiots being involved in the construction of the penal system?


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Re: Atlanta GA, Trying to ban hip-hop style jeans. [Re: daytripper05]
    #7329365 - 08/24/07 12:43 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I hope some white guy tries to ban beerstained wifebeaters tomorrow.


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Re: Atlanta GA, Trying to ban hip-hop style jeans. [Re: ManianFH]
    #7329367 - 08/24/07 12:44 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Where's the law that says the constitution is more than something we wipe our asses with?


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Re: Atlanta GA, Trying to ban hip-hop style jeans. [Re: daytripper05]
    #7329380 - 08/24/07 12:47 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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“This is a racial profiling bill that promotes and establishes a framework for an additional type of racial profiling,” she told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Ms Seagraves said the proposal was also overly broad, and would outlaw the thongs visible under trousers, jogging bras or stray straps here and there.





I don't think this was deliberately racial profiling, although it is really obviouishow it is seen this way. I think it has a lot more to do with dress sense and respect. Americans love to kick up a stink about racism whenever there's black people involved.


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the town of Delcambre now punishes glimpses of underwear with fines of up to $500 or six months in prison.





what. the. fuck.


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Re: Atlanta GA, Trying to ban hip-hop style jeans. [Re: indica]
    #7329400 - 08/24/07 12:53 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

lets go back to the 50's era and get rid of the sexy bikinis too. It's outrageous.


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Re: Atlanta GA, Trying to ban hip-hop style jeans. [Re: daytripper05]
    #7329418 - 08/24/07 12:58 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

while we're at it, we might as well ban those big bug eyed glasses. They cause traffic accidents :yesnod:

it is becoming more and more obvious how much of a dictatorship your country is falling into when they start controlling the clothes you aren't allowed to wear as it is.

That is really, really REALLY fucked up, man. Like, frighteningly fucked up. I thought past how stupid it was and started thinking about how scary it is that politicians are trying to legislate restrictions on clothes people can wear.

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Re: Atlanta GA, Trying to ban hip-hop style jeans. [Re: indica]
    #7329422 - 08/24/07 01:02 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

America is a fuckin' dictatorship, *practically*

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Re: Atlanta GA, Trying to ban hip-hop style jeans. [Re: indica]
    #7329507 - 08/24/07 01:32 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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“This is a racial profiling bill that promotes and establishes a framework for an additional type of racial profiling,” she told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Ms Seagraves said the proposal was also overly broad, and would outlaw the thongs visible under trousers, jogging bras or stray straps here and there.





I don't think this was deliberately racial profiling, although it is really obviouishow it is seen this way. I think it has a lot more to do with dress sense and respect. Americans love to kick up a stink about racism whenever there's black people involved.




Maybe not deliberate, but it would be used.
"Hey, I think that guy's selling drugs. Oh, look! His pants are sagging, now I have yet another bullshit excuse to approach him and inevitably search him."

This law is retarded, and funny, and if it passes I hope Atlanta's population severely drops.


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Re: Atlanta GA, Trying to ban hip-hop style jeans. [Re: daytripper05]
    #7329523 - 08/24/07 01:37 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

:congrats:

I support this ban!


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Re: Atlanta GA, Trying to ban hip-hop style jeans. [Re: daytripper05]
    #7329529 - 08/24/07 01:39 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I love Atlanta. So close,but culturally so far. We make fun of downtown with every news article.


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    #7329540 - 08/24/07 01:43 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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:congrats:

I support this ban!




While I find that this form of "fasion" is ridiculous, I would never ban it.


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Re: Atlanta GA, Trying to ban hip-hop style jeans. [Re: daytripper05]
    #7329551 - 08/24/07 01:46 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Doesn't that seem like a pain in the ass (pun intended) to wear your pants below your ass. I mean you would be pulling the things up all day. What if you had to carry something, your pants would just fall to the ground. I guess that's why I'm not gangsta, I just wouldn't know how.


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