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Psilocybe cyanescens - Am i doomed?
    #720179 - 07/03/02 01:02 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Hullo all, new user, first time poster....

got a question for y'all....

I've ingested small quantities of Psilocybe cyanescens on 2 past occasions. Both times i've never had heaps, ie, about 10-14 mushrooms, and made a tea from them with hot water. both times i've not really tripped, sort of, like a low as dose of acid, ie, i can feel something is different but not really lost in my mind. after about 2-3 hours tho, i get overcome by a feel like i'm gonna pass out. the world spins, and i lose conciousness. then come too and the world is spinning still, too fast for me to see anything, and my minds is racing along and i can't comprehend anything. i get told later by people that were around that i've tensed up and started spasming. they've generally started called an ambulance to come save me when i come out of it, and i always hear them going "nah, he's okay, don't worry."

It's really scary for me and the others around me, but i was wondering if maybe it was just this particular mushroom, or if i'm doomed to not experience the psilocybe trip. any others have this experience or do you think i'm allergic to mushrooms in general? does this particular mushroom have more of the other alkaloids in it? or less maybe? thanks for all your help in advance!

mushroom in question: Psilocybe cyanescens


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens - Am i doomed? [Re: cactus_genie]
    #720357 - 07/03/02 02:15 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

10-14 mushrooms is a strong dose (talking about ps. cyans of course)
try using less, 4-5 shrooms should be enough

also..are you sure that those are ps. cyans??


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens - Am i doomed? [Re: CLuB99]
    #720430 - 07/03/02 02:44 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

pretty sure, 100% sure enough to eat them. they are the only ones we find around here, i live in Auckland, New Zealand. and they grow on wood chips and coniferous mulchy stuff.

maybe i did have to many. they were fresh. the thing is, everyone else is having like 20-30 for a Medium-strong dose, with some of the crazier peeps having like 50...


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens - Am i doomed? [Re: cactus_genie]
    #720955 - 07/03/02 07:46 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I live in NZ too, and may have ingested the same kind of shroom. The guy who found them for me has IDed them as blue meanies (cope cyans) but after checking with photos, they're not. It might be possible that you have the same kind of shrooms, because after I asked turns out they were found growing on council bark. Blue Meanies typically are meant to grow from manured soil.
I didn't have those problems however. I did encounter some bad nausea though, but I'm doing some more of the same kind this weekend, and I'll let you know how it goes.
Perhaps you should try another kind of shroom. There are more than 1 in NZ if you look hard enough.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens - Am i doomed? [Re: Sheepish]
    #720962 - 07/03/02 07:49 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

You could also try ingesting them without making a tea. Just eat them fresh and see what happens on the same dosage.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens - Am i doomed? [Re: cactus_genie]
    #722336 - 07/04/02 12:14 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

In reply to:

maybe i did have to many. they were fresh. the thing is, everyone else is having like 20-30 for a Medium-strong dose, with some of the crazier peeps having like 50...




man..i?m quite sure you?re not eating Ps. cyanescens...since recent analisys shows that is the most potent psilocybe of the world, and 50 cyans is way too much for tripping...let?s say more like a total ego dissolution with complete loss of memory...

is this the mushroom you?re eating?


are you sure you didn?t ate some Ps. subaeruginosa or something similar? on what they were growing?? wood? dung? do you have a pic?


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens - Am i doomed? [Re: CLuB99]
    #723108 - 07/04/02 08:17 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

i'm damn sure that's the buggers... maybe i am just having way too many.. and these other freaks, i dunno about them...? do they always have the wavy cap? i'm don't think the ones i had had a wavy cap.

they grow on woodchips, or on coniferous mulchy stuff.
i never found ones that grow on manure.

i was thinking about getting a grow kit sorted and trying some other strains...? maybe that might be the way to go. any suggestions as to other strains?

like the other guy said, the council has been spreading barky stuff around all the parks in auckland, they grow fucked everywhere. is there any other strains that look like the Ps. cyanescens and grow on wood chips?
note: all the guys that had heaps, ie 0ver 30 had baddass trips, had to stay sitting down for ages and fucken wasted as.... but 20 is an okay trip for these people.
they mostly make teas from fresh mushrooms, not eat them.

thanks guys!


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens - Am i doomed? [Re: cactus_genie]
    #725100 - 07/05/02 05:33 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

The wavy cap mushroom found throughout Southern Australia and New Zealand was incorrectly identified as Ps.Cyanescens.
It macroscopically resembles cyanescens, but has lageniform pleurocystidia and much larger spores. It is a variant of Psilocybe Subaeruginosa (possibly Tasmaniana or an unknown variety). There are no native Ps.Cyanescens patches in Australia or New Zealand. That would account for the difference in potency.
Bluemeanies - Copelandia Cyanescens are different - they grow in manure.
here are some pics of the aussie/nz wavy cap:




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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens - Am i doomed? [Re: cactus_genie]
    #726676 - 07/06/02 04:35 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

If you don't mind me asking, but what kind of parks have the council been spreading the bark around? I'm not asking for specific locations, but the type of areas it gets laid around.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens - Am i doomed? [Re: Sheepish]
    #729298 - 07/07/02 02:44 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

fucken everywhere mate... they have stopped growing abuntantly now tho, but a month ago... fark... everywhere!!!! skate parks, retaining walls on the side of the road, in cemetarys, soccer parks, everywhere....

regarding Copelandia Cyanescens, can anyone give me some more information about these? maybe they have some strange alkaloid mixture? also, would anyone suggest growing my own of a completly different strain, ie, the famous ps. cubensis perhaps?


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens - Am i doomed? [Re: cactus_genie]
    #729481 - 07/07/02 04:35 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/magic_mushrooms_aunz/magic_mushrooms_aunz.shtml

Try reading that, there's quite a bit of handy info about shrooms growing in NZ and Australia.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens - Am i doomed? [Re: cactus_genie]
    #730277 - 07/07/02 10:48 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Mj is the man, but he will soon be editing this online book so that Ps.Cyanescens is taken off that list.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens - Am i doomed? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #730336 - 07/07/02 11:36 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Why?


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens - Am i doomed? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #732719 - 07/09/02 01:07 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Why do you think? Because it is not found in Australia and New Zealand - Psilocybe Cyanescens is NOT native to Australia or New Zealand - whereas Copelandia/pan. Cyanescens (a different mushroom) is.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens - Am i doomed? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #732788 - 07/09/02 03:59 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Really? Shit, I didn't know that For minute I thought you were talking about Copes.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens - Am i doomed? [Re: cactus_genie]
    #11329779 - 10/27/09 07:38 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Dude, do you know how many grams that is? I ate a quarter ounce and went fucking apeshit crazy.  was delerious for several hours, tried to talk...only every 3rd word came out.  swimming in the sand, could not move.  im pretty sure i died. i was laying there and there was a fuzzy light around my field of vision.  my friends were standing around me in a circle remarking, what a waste, like i had been hit by a car....the entire world had fried their brains on shrooms and my disassociated spirit was forever trapped in this endless desert, never again would i see my parents.scariest shit ever. they talked to me. moaned my name, "acid" and "shroooooommmmmsssss"


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens - Am i doomed? [Re: MrMojo]
    #11329801 - 10/27/09 07:49 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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MrMojo said:
Dude, do you know how many grams that is? I ate a quarter ounce and went fucking apeshit crazy.  was delerious for several hours, tried to talk...only every 3rd word came out.  swimming in the sand, could not move.  im pretty sure i died. i was laying there and there was a fuzzy light around my field of vision.  my friends were standing around me in a circle remarking, what a waste, like i had been hit by a car....the entire world had fried their brains on shrooms and my disassociated spirit was forever trapped in this endless desert, never again would i see my parents.scariest shit ever. they talked to me. moaned my name, "acid" and "shroooooommmmmsssss"




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