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Crystal Meth Sterotypes
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http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/06/15/drugs.usa.reut/index.html

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- U.S. users of crystal methamphetamine tend to be young, poor, white men often with an incarcerated father, according to a study suggesting that its use may be more common than previously estimated.

The findings, published on Friday in the journal Addiction, were based on interviews with 14,322 people ages 18 to 26 in 2001 and 2002. The study found that 2.8 percent of those surveyed said they used the drug, often called crystal meth, in the past year, and 1.3 percent used it in the past month.

The study was funded by the National Institute on Drug Abuse, part of the U.S. National Institutes of Health.

NIDA officials said the rate seen in this study is higher than other studies have found. For example, NIDA said a 2004 survey it conducted showed use among Americans ages 19 to 28 at 1.5 percent in the previous year.

The survey results painted a portrait of these drug users.

They were heavily white rather than black or Hispanic, although Native Americans had very high usage rates, the study found. They tended to be poor, also use alcohol, marijuana, cocaine and other drugs. Male users were more likely to have had incarcerated fathers.

Crystal methamphetamine is a form of methamphetamine, an addictive synthetic stimulant. It resembles small fragments of glass and is typically smoked using glass pipes.

The study found most people who used it did so only occasionally, with just a small proportion of frequent users.

Its use was associated with violent behavior, drug selling and arrests. Particularly among women, its use also was associated with risky sexual behavior such as unprotected sex.

The drug was used more often in the Midwest, South and especially the West, and less often in Northeastern states.

"The study showed not only greater use of crystal methamphetamine, it also suggests the drug is associated with risky and antisocial behaviors, including other illicit drug use," NIDA Director Dr. Nora Volkow said in a statement.

The study was conducted by researchers at the Pacific Institute for Research and Evaluation in Chapel Hill, North Carolina, and the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.

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Re: Crystal Meth Sterotypes [Re: wireless]
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Its use was associated with violent behavior, drug selling and arrests.



Around here meth is associated with young and successful artsy overachievers - people who run around trying to live a superhuman existence of productivity and progress by going non-stop 20 hours a day. The only difference between them an the poor folks in this article is their education and affluence. They are fortunate to have these social benefits which allow them to be highly functional addicts - surviving entirely on a diet of antioxidant tonics and mineral water they buy at Whole Foods.

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Re: Crystal Meth Sterotypes [Re: xjuan]
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fuck meth


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Re: Crystal Meth Sterotypes [Re: Invisible_Woe]
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somebody needs to start passing the blunts shrooms and lsd around so ppl will stop with that shit,fuck smokin meth what are they goona do next for a cheap high huff some gas? ignorant hilly pig fuckin rednecks

peace out Dm


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Re: Crystal Meth Sterotypes [Re: Invisible_Woe]
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Invisible_Woe said:
fuck meth



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Re: Crystal Meth Sterotypes [Re: Infested]
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not a lot of support for meth use here eh?


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Re: Crystal Meth Sterotypes [Re: Mickalopagus]
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mickdawg666 said:
not a lot of support for meth use here eh?



Infested said:
Invisible_Woe said:
fuck meth







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Re: Crystal Meth Sterotypes [Re: dutchmushroom]
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Even with a surplus of psychedelics and marijuana people will still use amphetamines. The startling reason why? Those drugs just don't do the same things. There are people who really enjoy the effects of amphetamines and would prefer them to the drugs you suggested.

Aside from that amphetamine use spans all racial and economic lines. There isn't any one type of methamphetamine user. Meth users aren't all "pig fuckin rednecks". For example, look at the huge population of amphetamine users in Asia.

You also imply that amphetamines can't be used in a responsible or relatively safe fashion which is patently false and only exemplified by their common use in medicine.

Your post has only highlighted your own ignorance and not that of the stereotypical methamphetamine user.


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Re: Crystal Meth Sterotypes [Re: MrKite1]
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MrKite1 said:
Even with a surplus of psychedelics and marijuana people will still use amphetamines. The startling reason why? Those drugs just don't do the same things. There are people who really enjoy the effects of amphetamines and would prefer them to the drugs you suggested.

Aside from that amphetamine use spans all racial and economic lines. There isn't any one type of methamphetamine user. Meth users aren't all "pig fuckin rednecks". For example, look at the huge population of amphetamine users in Asia.

You also imply that amphetamines can't be used in a responsible or relatively safe fashion which is patently false and only exemplified by their common use in medicine.

Your post has only highlighted your own ignorance and not that of the stereotypical methamphetamine user.



o snap  :evildog:


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Re: Crystal Meth Sterotypes [Re: Mickalopagus]
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mickdawg666 said:
not a lot of support for meth use here eh?



you got alot of "my drug is better than your drug" people on here.

Its sad that people will say its all propaganda when it comes to the drug they love, but as soon as its something they dont like "fuck meth" is all you hear. It just shows the drug using community is just as close-minded as the society they shun.

I have never touched meth, and probably never will. Stimulants just dont do it for me, I am hyper enough as it is. However, I have seen pleanty of people live great productive lives while keeping their meth habbits under control. If you are going to accept the worst of the worst for posterboys for meth, then people shouldnt be surpised that the same logic is used for marijuana, acid, shrooms, and every other drug somebody wants illegal.

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Re: Crystal Meth Sterotypes [Re: dedjam]
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wow jeese i dident mean to start that i was just saying meth sux. i mean yeah yeah its used as a med but when u start making shit in ur tub for money to buy meth thats when u kno ur a bad person and if u kan do it responsibly ok. thats what happened to coke. its not a bad drugs rly its just people cant control themselves with it cuz ur high as fuck for like 20 mins and then boom. and some people kant deal with it. but do what you want i have ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT to tell you what to do with your body...meth....just not for me :smile:


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Re: Crystal Meth Sterotypes [Re: dedjam]
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gopenguins said:
mickdawg666 said:
not a lot of support for meth use here eh?



you got alot of "my drug is better than your drug" people on here.

Its sad that people will say its all propaganda when it comes to the drug they love, but as soon as its something they dont like "fuck meth" is all you hear. It just shows the drug using community is just as close-minded as the society they shun.

I have never touched meth, and probably never will. Stimulants just dont do it for me, I am hyper enough as it is. However, I have seen pleanty of people live great productive lives while keeping their meth habbits under control. If you are going to accept the worst of the worst for posterboys for meth, then people shouldnt be surpised that the same logic is used for marijuana, acid, shrooms, and every other drug somebody wants illegal.




exactly


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Re: Crystal Meth Sterotypes [Re: Invisible_Woe]
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Invisible_Woe said:
gopenguins said:
mickdawg666 said:
not a lot of support for meth use here eh?



you got alot of "my drug is better than your drug" people on here.

Its sad that people will say its all propaganda when it comes to the drug they love, but as soon as its something they dont like "fuck meth" is all you hear. It just shows the drug using community is just as close-minded as the society they shun.

I have never touched meth, and probably never will. Stimulants just dont do it for me, I am hyper enough as it is. However, I have seen pleanty of people live great productive lives while keeping their meth habbits under control. If you are going to accept the worst of the worst for posterboys for meth, then people shouldnt be surpised that the same logic is used for marijuana, acid, shrooms, and every other drug somebody wants illegal.




exactly



Indeed, to each their own. It bothers me to see how often folks here will readily pour propaganda fueled derision upon a drug they just don't care for.

I still really feel that in the end chemicals are chemicals. Until you introduce the human element any one isn't inherently worse or better than another. I also scoff at the commonly lauded idea that certain drugs will "make" a person do bad things. While the difficulty of maintaining a habit may motivate someone to commit awful acts no chemical can force a persons hand. At some point they made a decision or in many cases failed to make a good decision. :frown:


I like stimulants, though not nearly as much as I did when I was younger. I also refuse to engage in any binging activity or heavy use. I can't stand cocaine and when I indulge in amphetamines I avoid anything other than a single oral dose.
I find that large doses or fast onset just makes me paranoid and withdrawn and that seems to defeat my purposes for ingesting a stimulant which is always social lubrication or to foster focus and stamina.


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Re: Crystal Meth Sterotypes [Re: Invisible_Woe]
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Invisible_Woe said:
i mean yeah yeah its used as a med but when u start making shit in ur tub for money to buy meth thats when u kno ur a bad person and if u kan do it responsibly ok.



Moderator Edit: No flaming outside of the OTD forum.


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Edited by Carlito (07/01/07 06:15 PM)

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Re: Crystal Meth Sterotypes [Re: chemiKalz]
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chemiKalz said:
Invisible_Woe said:
i mean yeah yeah its used as a med but when u start making shit in ur tub for money to buy meth thats when u kno ur a bad person and if u kan do it responsibly ok.



You sound like a fucking retard. :lol:



xjuan said:
The only difference between them an the poor folks in this article is their education and affluence.



Maybe it's best if some people keep their biased stances. :wink:

Really though, this kind of behavior is quite common around the shroomery. Up next will be, "well I know firsthand [error] how bad meth addicts get because my buddy was an addict and messed himself up really badly." I could make the point that there are plenty of people who use amphetamines without tearing themselves apart. And I've known people who have done way more than their fair share of psychedelics, and it shows.

Of course, it's generally accepted around here that when something like that happens, it was the result of a previously existing chemical imbalance, in combination with an otherwise 100% harmless psychedelic.


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Re: Crystal Meth Sterotypes [Re: Koala Koolio]
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Imagine there's no heaven,
It's easy if you try,
No hell below us,
Above us only sky,
Imagine all the people
living for today...

Imagine there's no countries,
It isnt hard to do,
Nothing to kill or die for,
No religion too,
Imagine all the people
living life in peace...

You may say Im a dreamer,
but Im not the only one,
I hope some day you'll join us,
And the world will live as one.

(Imagine all the people sharing all the world)

Imagine no possesions,
I wonder if you can,
No need for greed or hunger,
A brotherhood of man,
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...

You may say Im a dreamer,
but Im not the only one,
I hope some day you'll join us,
And the world will live as one.


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Re: Crystal Meth Sterotypes [Re: Invisible_Woe]
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Most people on this board havent just smoked pot and done shrooms nobody ever experimented when they were younger I personally like hallucinogens more than anything else but it doesnt get alot off other peoples rocks off, so they find what does that is how ppl are we are hedonistic by nature I dont judge others because I wouldnt want to be stereotyped as a hippy burn out be more open minded aslo anyone like MDMA,MDA,or MDE all closley resemble meth.

BE SAFE


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Re: Crystal Meth Sterotypes [Re: AtPeace]
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AtPeace said:
aslo anyone like MDMA,MDA,or MDE all closley resemble meth.




Structurally they do. The effects on the brain are quite different, though.


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Re: Crystal Meth Sterotypes [Re: AtPeace]
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AtPeace said:
Most people on this board havent just smoked pot and done shrooms nobody ever experimented when they were younger I personally like hallucinogens more than anything else but it doesnt get alot off other peoples rocks off, so they find what does that is how ppl are we are hedonistic by nature I dont judge others because I wouldnt want to be stereotyped as a hippy burn out be more open minded aslo anyone like MDMA,MDA,or MDE all closley resemble meth.

BE SAFE



The neurotoxicity between MDMA, MDA, and MDE compared to methamphetamine is astronomically different. MDMA acts on completely different parts of the brain. MDMA is not a methamphetamine analog even though its amphetamine based. The two can not even be compared as far as affects on the body because one is considered addictive, extremely neurotoxic over time, and acts on completely different parts of the brain while one exhibits little neurotoxicity, and little or no addiction potential as well as medical potential that won't be marketed to kid's fucked up like Ritalin has been. Really check out your facts on erowid and or any other study before you try to deface MDMA. Just because you don't use it or "you know someone who pops like everyday seriouslysde0o87" doesn't mean you should suggest things of that nature.

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Re: Crystal Meth Sterotypes [Re: Koala Koolio]
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FUCK ABUSERS! You can abuse anything whether it be food, booze, pot, meth, opiates, blaming meth for ruining some scumbags life is like blaming McDonald's for making some asshole fat. Meth doesn't hunt ppl down and force them to put there lips to the pipe, but I know alot of abusive self-absorbed asshole scumbags that hunt the pipe down looking for there next high. Meth isn't my thing but to say its the root of all these scumbags problems is wrong its nothing more than a tool in there self destructive behavior if it wasn't meth it would be alcohol if it wasn't alcohol it would be opiates if it wasnt opiates it would be scrips if it wasnt scrips it would be drano and on and on. If your going to condemn something condemn the behavior of these jerk-offs and not the drugs or tools that they use to willing destroy themselves and those around them.


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