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At what temperature do the actives in poppy pods break down?
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When making pod putty its nessacery to boil the heads.

I'm womdering if theres any loss of actives in this process or do the actives break down at temperatures higher than 100 degrees?

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Re: At what temperature do the actives in poppy pods break down? [Re: Ego Death]
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I wouldn't worry, morphine is pretty stable.


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Re: At what temperature do the actives in poppy pods break down? [Re: Ego Death]
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no

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Re: At what temperature do the actives in poppy pods break down? [Re: Loki]
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OK,
thanks for answering!

Poppies are easy to grow then I hear, if someone just chucked a few seeds down they would most likely grow?

Has anyone tried smoking pod putty? I heard its best ingested but is there an effect if you smoke loads of it? Or is the smoke way too harsh?

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Re: At what temperature do the actives in poppy pods break down? [Re: Ego Death]
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Oh yeah,
I assume the alkaloids are highly soluable in water?

Sorry for being lazy by the way!!! But I know you experts love to answer questions too!


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Re: At what temperature do the actives in poppy pods break down? [Re: Ego Death]
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M is only somewhat soluable in water... But cooking and straining will work.


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Re: At what temperature do the actives in poppy pods break down? [Re: Ego Death]
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How the hell would you get the water hotter than 100C???


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Re: At what temperature do the actives in poppy pods break down? [Re: Nalim]
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Wud it work better if the mix was acidic, like add lemon juice?

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Re: At what temperature do the actives in poppy pods break down? [Re: felixhigh]
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What the hell are you asking that for?

I'm assuming you've misread my question. Read again;

Quote:
do the actives break down at temperatures higher than 100 degrees?


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Re: At what temperature do the actives in poppy pods break down? [Re: Ego Death]
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I think it would be a bit more effective yes. But not much.

This is what I would do:
The best thing would probably be to add slaked lime though(watch the pH), this will convert the morphine to calcium morphenate which is very water soluable. Then after straining the liquid add lemon juice untill the liquid is around pH7.


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Re: At what temperature do the actives in poppy pods break down? [Re: Ego Death]
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Just saw that you are interested in a smokable substance.

Check my thread in ODD(the bolded text in the post I linked to is the interesting part):
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6519810#Post6519810


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Re: At what temperature do the actives in poppy pods break down? [Re: Nalim]
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Thanks, interesting stuff!

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Re: At what temperature do the actives in poppy pods break down? [Re: felixhigh]
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felixhigh said:
How the hell would you get the water hotter than 100C???


FH


By using a pressure cooker or autoclave. I believe you can heat water to 121C at 15psi. I wouldn't think that would be warranted for this purpose, though.


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Re: At what temperature do the actives in poppy pods break down? [Re: PsychoChipmunk]
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does anyoen know if you can effectively make a tea from freshly picked pods?


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Re: At what temperature do the actives in poppy pods break down? [Re: shane]
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:offtopic:
Just empty it from seeds and cook it, just as you would with dried pods.


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