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Cannabis cash 'funds Islamist terrorism'
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Cannabis cash 'funds Islamist terrorism'
May 13, 2007 - guardian.co.uk

Cannabis smokers are unwittingly funding Islamist extremists linked to terror attacks in Spain, Morocco and Algeria, according to a joint investigation by the Spanish and French secret services. The finding will be seized on both by campaigners for a harsher clampdown on cannabis and by those who argue that legalisation is the only way to end a petty dealing trend that is dragging growing numbers of teenagers into crime.

The investigation by the Centro Nacional de Inteligencia and the Renseignements Generaux was launched after Spanish police found that the Islamists behind the March 2004 bombings in Madrid bought their explosives from former miners in return for blocks of hashish. The bombings claimed 191 lives.

Spain's role as a transit point for drugs was highlighted last week when Madrid hosted the US Drug Enforcement Agency's annual conference. Experts heard not only that North African hashish was funding terrorism in Europe, but also that West Africa had become a new hub for South American cocaine shipments bound for Europe.

Morocco is the world's leading cannabis exporter, with an annual crop estimated to be worth at least £2bn. Last month, the Moroccan navy seized three tonnes of Europe-bound hashish off the Mediterranean port of Nador. The same week, Spanish coastguards seized 4.3 tonnes of Moroccan resin off Ibiza.

The joint secret service investigation finds that hashish is part of a 'complex financing network' serving the Algeria-based Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat, affiliated since last year to al-Qaeda. The group claimed responsibility for two bombings in Algiers on 11 April that killed 30 people and left 200 injured.

French terrorism expert Dominique Thomas said the link between drug dealing and Islamic terrorism was not new: 'The issue stands at the core of divisions within al-Qaeda between those who believe that the end justifies the means and others who argue that drugs are incompatible with Islam.'

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Re: Cannabis cash 'funds Islamist terrorism' [Re: veggie]
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Seems like all those problems can be traced back to it's illegality. They're too damn proud to admit they were wrong.


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Re: Cannabis cash 'funds Islamist terrorism' [Re: Flugon_Nine]
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Fight terrorism, grow your own or only buy from close friends.


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Re: Cannabis cash 'funds Islamist terrorism' [Re: K1wI]
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Hmm... If Cannabis were legal, we wouldn't have this problem.

How about: "Government prohobition funds Islamic terrorism"? Fuckin' idiots. It's THEIR PROBLEM, NOT OURS. I for one am not going to change my ways or lose any sleep over this.

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Re: Cannabis cash 'funds Islamist terrorism' [Re: TurricaN]
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It won't stop the business turning no matter who it ultimately funds.

Supply and demand for Cannabis will simply never cease thats a fact.

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Re: Cannabis cash 'funds Islamist terrorism' [Re: veggie]
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> Oil cash 'funds Islamist terrorism'

I fixed the headline... obviously, it was a typo...  :rolleyes:

If cannabis were legal, then there would be no black market, thus there would be no funds going to terrorism.  It is the war on drugs that funds "Islamist" terrorism.  (I wonder how the Christian terrorists manage to avoid drug money, since it is clear that only Islamic terrorists benefit from the black market trade of illegal drugs?)

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Re: Cannabis cash 'funds Islamist terrorism' [Re: Seuss]
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Didnt they already try this propaganda once? And most people called BS on it then, and that was like 10 years ago. I guess the whole "its killing off the children thing" isnt working again...

OMG, MARIJAUNA CAUSED 9/11 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

people dont give a fuck anymore, terrorism is bs.

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Re: Cannabis cash 'funds Islamist terrorism' [Re: dedjam]
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The U.S. government has inadvertently supplied more terrorist funds than pot smokers so there. And we can never forget the US trained Osahma and put Saddamm in power so it's all the US governments fault not pot smokers


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Re: Cannabis cash 'funds Islamist terrorism' [Re: pabloescabar]
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I call it propaganda

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Re: Cannabis cash 'funds Islamist terrorism' [Re: psilosibling]
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hey well then maybe these governments should get in on the action and profit from it, and push these punk islamists out of the market...the market isn't going to go away so its better off for them to just control it...but what do i know...

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Re: Cannabis cash 'funds Islamist terrorism' [Re: psilosibling]
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psilosibling said:
I call it propaganda



What in the article was untrue? Or do you just label anything you disagree with "propoganda"?

I'm not agreeing with the article, the best solution to this is to legalize the stuff so more is grown locally, and oil is a MUCH larger funder (so far 300,000,000 barrels of oil have gone missing from Iraq, stolen by insurgents). Still though, I think this article at least proves that one sale of cannabis can be linked to a terrorist attack. Nothing to feel guilty about of course, they make it sound like all cannabis directly funds terrorism when it was really just a few cases.

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Re: Cannabis cash 'funds Islamist terrorism' [Re: veggie]
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I would be glad to know that my pot money is going to kill thousands of people. We have far too many in this world and I'm sure the great majority of those killed oppose my freedom to smoke cannabis anyways.

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Re: Cannabis cash 'funds Islamist terrorism' [Re: HillbillyThoth]
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What in the article was untrue? Or do you just label anything you disagree with "propoganda"?

Propaganda isn't just about lying, it's also deliberately spreading information in such a way that it misrepresents the truth. So I think you just answered your own question:

"...they make it sound like all cannabis directly funds terrorism when it was really just a few cases."

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Re: Cannabis cash 'funds Islamist terrorism' [Re: DNKYD]
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I'd like to see an article titled "Cannabis cash funds financially troubled engineering student" or something of the sort.

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Re: Cannabis cash 'funds Islamist terrorism' [Re: DNKYD]
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Isn't almost 90% of MJ home grown in the USA? Isn't it in the top 4 cash crops?

Smoke some of the weed and u wont worry about terrorism.

like the person said above with a little added.

If you make everything legal thats on the black market....then there will not be a black market.

Yes, all things shouldn't be legal. but people need to stop bitching about the funding of terrorism.

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Re: Cannabis cash 'funds Islamist terrorism' [Re: Available]
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If the money I spend on pot happens to end up in the hands of a terrorist organization, so be it. The government is too fucking stubborn to make a profit off of me, so I'll gladly hand it over to the 'bad guys'. Thanks again, government.


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Re: Cannabis cash 'funds Islamist terrorism' [Re: SuperD]
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SuperD said:
If the money I spend on pot happens to end up in the hands of a terrorist organization, so be it.  The government is too fucking stubborn to make a profit off of me, so I'll gladly hand it over to the 'bad guys'.  Thanks again, government.



I'm sure they money the government takes from me in the form of taxes goes to fund more murder than any money I spend on drugs.

Hell, if the government legalized and taxed drugs they money would probably support the terroristic "war on terror"...id have a hard time smoking a blunt and thinking I just helped kill some innocent durka durka because they believe different than my government (id get over it real quick though :lol: )

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Re: Cannabis cash 'funds Islamist terrorism' [Re: dedjam]
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Government's thought process:

"Oh no, everyone is starting to realise all the bad things we say about cannabis is complet bullshit. Oh no, what should we do? I know lets say that cannabis cash funds terrorism, then people hate cannabis again! Yay!"

Fucking stupid retards


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Re: Cannabis cash 'funds Islamist terrorism' [Re: dedjam]
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<stereotype>
Drugs should be illegal because drugs make people cynical, paranoid, disconnected from reality, and makes them hate their country. And they don't care who they hurt.
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OMG, MARIJAUNA CAUSED 9/11 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

people dont give a fuck anymore, terrorism is bs.


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If the money I spend on pot happens to end up in the hands of a terrorist organization, so be it. The government is too fucking stubborn to make a profit off of me, so I'll gladly hand it over to the 'bad guys'. Thanks again, government.


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I'm sure they money the government takes from me in the form of taxes goes to fund more murder than any money I spend on drugs.

Hell, if the government legalized and taxed drugs they money would probably support the terroristic "war on terror"...id have a hard time smoking a blunt and thinking I just helped kill some innocent durka durka because they believe different than my government



</stereotype>

I see drug users spouting off like this so often that it makes me rethink whether I should really be supporting drug decriminalization/legalization. Maybe legalization would be a huge mistake and would result in throngs of anti-social anarchists imagining that our government is going around murdering innocent people just because of their beliefs -- but at the same time terrorism is BS. I'd like to think that drug legalization (and the corresponding expanded use of certain drugs) would be good for society, but maybe I'm wrong.

Do drugs make people act this way, or are people like this just attracted to drugs? Does long-term drug use destroy one's ability to control their cynicism and put things into perspective?

Why do so many drug users insist on making society their enemy? That is the true reason that drugs became illegal and why they stay illegal. When/if that changes, so will the drug laws.

On the topic of this article, the fact that hashish was used to obtain the explosives used in the terror attack that killed 191 people is worth noting. And rather than seizing on this opportunity to call your government murderous terrorists, you could use this opportunity to illustrate how our drug laws are counterproductive when it comes to our safety:
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If cannabis were legal, then there would be no black market, thus there would be no funds going to terrorism. It is the war on drugs that funds "Islamist" terrorism.



Edited by pokermush (05/15/07 02:23 PM)

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Re: Cannabis cash 'funds Islamist terrorism' [Re: pokermush]
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pokermush said:
Load of shit




Forgive me for not believing as you do and not buying into the same BS :rolleyes:

Edit: BTW, without knowing a thing about me, thanks for putting my beliefs into your little box...:thumbdown:

Edited by gopenguins (05/15/07 02:30 PM)

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