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The_Red_Crayon
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Iran-Iraq war.

#5930448 - 08/04/06 05:05 AM (20 years, 3 months ago)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8979584909588245820&q=Iran+Iraq+War

Excellent documentary, gives you a good scope of what future Iran operations in the region could consist of.

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The_Red_Crayon
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Re: Iran-Iraq war.

[Re: The_Red_Crayon]
#5932274 - 08/04/06 08:05 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

bump* no comments at all. Come on people some good info here.

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Re: Iran-Iraq war.

[Re: The_Red_Crayon]
#5932285 - 08/04/06 08:10 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

Not really. When the media has the Christian conservatives all whipped up into a frenzy that <insert nation here, most likely Iran> has dared to strike at our "ally" little Jewish Israel, the war will tear through Iran as quickly as it tore through Iraa or Afganistan

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zappaisgod
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Re: Iran-Iraq war.

[Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
#5932362 - 08/04/06 08:36 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

Nobody's gonna watch a 40 minute video.

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Re: Iran-Iraq war.

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#5932401 - 08/04/06 08:57 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

im gona have to watch this sober man all im gettin is visuals at 13 minutes into it

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Re: Iran-Iraq war.

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#5932459 - 08/04/06 09:17 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

2/11/04 registration date and the concept of "quick reply" is still alien. Keep trying tiger, we've all got faith in you!

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The_Red_Crayon
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Re: Iran-Iraq war.

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#5932466 - 08/04/06 09:19 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

zappaisgod said:

Nobody's gonna watch a 40 minute video.

Oh really are you the spokesperson for the coalition against the video.

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Re: Iran-Iraq war.

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#5932484 - 08/04/06 09:27 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

xDuckYouSuckerx said:

2/11/04 registration date and the concept of "quick reply" is still alien. Keep trying tiger, we've all got faith in you!

This is not OTD. Keep it on topic.

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Re: Iran-Iraq war.

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#5932489 - 08/04/06 09:29 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

The_Red_Crayon said:

Oh really are you the spokesperson for the coalition against the video.

40 minutes of information is just too much for him. Skimming the headlines of Ha`arets is all he needs.

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Re: Iran-Iraq war.

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#5932581 - 08/04/06 10:08 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

xDuckYouSuckerx said:

Not really. When the media has the Christian conservatives all whipped up into a frenzy that <insert nation here, most likely Iran> has dared to strike at our "ally" little Jewish Israel, the war will tear through Iran as quickly as it tore through Iraa or Afganistan

Maybe but not likely, Since Iraq is overstretched and Iranian sympathies are so prevalent in the Shia communities of Iraq it could be a melt down. It was predicted that the war with Iran would start on the Lebanese border.

Hezbollah opens up a 2nd front on the Lebanese border and draws the Israeli's in a 4GW guerrilla warfare keeping them in a position of leverage. Iran can simply overwhelm Coalition forces with force of numbers, Can you imagine 40,000 VBIED's pouring over the Iraq border targetting Coalition installations. Sporadic fighting will more then likely break out in Iranian backed shia insurgencies like Sadr's bunch and other smaller organizations.

Iranian frogmen will go down the coast of the persian gulf and Sabotage oil refineries bringing down oil relying western nations. Iran Revolutionary guards will attack vulnerable Oil rich states like Bahrain and Qatar in the north and Kuwait in the north.

Inept and Corrupt Arabic countries will be deposed by populist extremist muslim movements as they stand by and watch their inept countries apologize for the situation in Lebanon and Israel.

Small scale tactical nuclear weapons will be forced to be used against Iran's many nuclear facilities and heavy water processing plants, EBO (effects based operations) will be targetted against Iranian infrastructure in an effort to bring about regime change (either during or before the upcoming war)

CIA will arm the anti-iranian kurdish resistant groups located in northern Iraq and the Bolochs

An upcoming war could spread devestating economic rammifications that are very real and not to be underestimated, i will go more in depth if any one would like.

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Re: Iran-Iraq war.

[Re: The_Red_Crayon]
#6837624 - 04/26/07 06:24 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Azzaman, April 26, 2007

"The Iranian military have occupied an Iraqi border post and are planning to explore for oil inside Iraqi territory.

The Iranians first ordered Iraqi border guards to leave the post before storming it.

The Iranians claim that they have already notified the Iraqi authorities of the move, according to sources who spoke on condition of anonymity.

The border post is situated west of the southern city of Kut and Iraqi police in the city declined comment."

http://www.azzaman.com/english/index.asp?fname=news\2007-04-26\kurd.htm

Ummmm...

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Re: Iran-Iraq war.

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#6837635 - 04/26/07 06:27 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Ummmmm, indeed. Where the fuck did you find this?

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Re: Iran-Iraq war.

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#6837658 - 04/26/07 06:33 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Iraqis main newspaper.

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Re: Iran-Iraq war.

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#6837717 - 04/26/07 06:40 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

No shit?

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[Re: The_Red_Crayon]
#6840093 - 04/27/07 09:23 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Excellent documentary. Hard to keep track sometimes, have to focus :smile:

:smile:

[url=

&q=iran+duration%3Along]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=554201962695917482&q=iran+duration%3Along[/url]
This one is pretty good as well! Seems like a cool place yet warm to spend vacation on :stoned:

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Nephlyte
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Re: Iran-Iraq war.

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#6841141 - 04/27/07 02:14 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

This is a good video. You never hear enough about this war. If they do mention it, its a one line in a 5 minute blurb about middle east history.

Anyone who did get at least 7 minutes and 39 seconds in, did you see the list of reasons why saddam didn't get very far into iran? Heres the list for those of you you didn't get that far:

Strong-willed, intransigent(uncompromising
No military training
Careless Planner
Overestimated his troops' abilities
Executed Generals who retreated

Except for the last line, does this sound like any other leader we can think of who has lead a pointless and unsuccessful war in recent years?

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Re: Iran-Iraq war.

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#6841600 - 04/27/07 04:35 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

What makes Bush's war even more insane is that Iran has always been understood to be a counterweight to Iraq in the region. And from a strictly utilitarian point of view the strategy was successful until Bush-chimp blundered into the picture.

Add utter lack of foreign policy awareness to the list.

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Re: Iran-Iraq war.

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#6844186 - 04/28/07 05:05 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

zorbman said:

What makes Bush's war even more insane is that Iran has always been understood to be a counterweight to Iraq in the region. And from a strictly utilitarian point of view the strategy was successful until Bush-chimp blundered into the picture.

Add utter lack of foreign policy awareness to the list.

I think you're wrong. The US used Iraq to counter Iran's interests, not the other way around. The current Iranian regime has never had any normal relations with the United States.

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#6844207 - 04/28/07 05:24 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

I never said we did anything in Iran or Iraq's interests.
We did things in OUR interests.

Yes, in the last few years we have used Iraq. Before that we used Iran.

Counterbalance.

Learn your history.

In August 1941, the Allied powers United Kingdom and the Soviet Union, occupied Iran by a massive air, land, and naval assault subsequently forcing Iran's then leader, Reza Shah, to abdicate in favour of his son, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi.

Our boy took the throne in Iran and the Iranian people resented the Hell out of him and when he fled to the U.S. for cancer treatment in 1979 there was a revolution in Iran. Oddly enough people just seem to resent outside powers picking their leaders for some reason. People are just strange like that. :rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

Stop the damn meddling, stop lying and let the region settle down stupid neoncon apes.

Before Bush there was balance between Iran and Iraq.

What our feeble-minded President has done is unleashed forces that were held in check for many years thereby igniting a firestorm that will take decades to burn out causing untold pain and suffering for hundreds of thousands of people.

Nice work, George!

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Edited by zorbman (04/28/07 05:50 AM)

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Re: Iran-Iraq war.

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#6844229 - 04/28/07 05:43 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Great post, man. :thumbup:

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The situations in the Middle East are largely the way they are because of intervention in the region by Western civilization. We've brought in our own borders and have attempted to control the region. Take a look at Israel, at what zorbman is referring to... The region is so volatile because of all of the pressure resulting from our presence in the region. Our presence has never been in respect of the natural existance of the region - thus we are incapable of effectively managing the situation.

Its the same with Africa. We've already exploited that continent for hundreds and hundreds of years. Africa has so many problems because they are dealing with the aftermath of our pillaging it. They have to play by our rules now to survive, yet they have no capability of doing so, and no interest from us in accomplishing that.

Isn't it interesting how much suffering we've created in these regions? :nonono:

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