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Sacramental use of Astrophytum.
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I've heard that natives around here used the Astrophytum myriostigma and the Astrophytum asterias as a kind of peyotillo. Unfortunately, there hasn't been much research done on their alkaloid content, so I'm not sure what might be in them. In any case, I was wondering if anyone knew how much of either of the cacti would have been ingested during sacramental rites, and what kinds of effects they had. I checked the library for a couple of books on peyote cults, but they only made passing mention of the astrophytum.

If anyone has any information on anything related to religious use of astrophytum, I'd like to see it.

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Re: Sacramental use of Astrophytum. [Re: AlephOne]
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i have so many i would eat some but you know without enough info im not going first. they would be extremely hard to chew especially swallow because of their woody texture. so i assume tea is the method of consumption. i would ponder trying it if i didnt work 6 days a week.

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Re: Sacramental use of Astrophytum. [Re: durban_poison]
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send one to me, i'll play guinea pig :lol:


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Re: Sacramental use of Astrophytum. [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
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Good topic. I always wondered about other active cacti besides the standards. HAs anyone ever tried others?: http://www.xs4all.nl/~4david/cacti.html

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Re: Sacramental use of Astrophytum. [Re: blazed123]
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i have eaten opuntia.  got a full stomach and no effects :smile:


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Re: Sacramental use of Astrophytum. [Re: kadakuda]
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What type of opuntia?

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Re: Sacramental use of Astrophytum. [Re: AlephOne]
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From site ~ http://www.cactus-mall.com/mss/old.html#8

Astrophytum asterias

The original citation of A. asterias as peyote comes from The Cactaceae by Britton & Rose where it is said that "Senor Solis says that the plant is known as peyote." Schultes writes that A. asterias is "said to be either narcotic or medicinal," but cites Britton & Rose who do not make such claims, while Bravo simply indicated that the species carries the common name of peyote while mentioning no ethnobotanical use.

Britton & Rose's, Bravo's, and Schultes' comments in his 1937 articles, Peyote and Plants Used in the Peyote Ceremony (April) and Peyote and Plants Confused with It (November), are the only supportive evidence of the peyote classification or ethnobotanical use of A. asterias and all future references to the plant appear to rely on these sources.

A. asterias is one of the most likely candidates as peyote based solely on its physical similarities to L. williamsii.
Astrophytum capricorne

The oldest known citation of A. capricorne as a peyote species comes Schultes' 1937 article, Peyote and Plants Confused With It. Schultes cites Britton & Rose as his source, but The Cactaceae does not regard it as peyote. Like other Astrophytum species, it is claimed by Schultes to have been "said to be either narcotic or medicinal."

It seems that all future references to the species as peyote stem from Schultes, but due to the inaccurate reference to Britton & Rose it may be mistakenly considered peyote. Further support for a possible mistaken reference to A. capricorne as peyote is that Schultes failed to cite it in a list of peyote species in Peyote and Plants Used in the Peyote Ceremony, an article published just seven months before Peyote and Plants Confused With It.
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Astrophytum myriostigma

A. myriostigma appears to have gained its original peyote status following the publication of Victor A. Reko's 1929 article Was ist Peyote? which was published in a German parapsychology journal. Unfortunately I have been unable to review Reko's original writings to examine the context in which it is cited as peyote or if it supports ethnobotanical usage.

Both of Schultes' 1937 articles regard A. myriostigma as "either narcotic or medicinal." Bravo's 1937 publication also makes mention of A. myriostigma as a peyote, but fails to give supportive evidence of ethnobotanical use. Bravo lists the species under three different geographically based titles, "peyote cimarrón" in Durango, "mitra" in San Luis Potosí, and "Birrete de Obispo" (bishop's cap) in Coahuila.


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