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InvisibleBoppity604
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Jar to Cake Position Debate: New Angle
    #667672 - 06/07/02 04:40 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Okay. Two TEKs I've read so far both say you should birth your cakes with the top side of the cake facing up in the fruiting chamber as they were facing up in the incubator (for me this would be vermiculite topped layer facing up after birthing them.) Several peeps here say to do the opposite that you should put the verm side down even if it was your top side during incubation.

To me it seems to make sense to keep them oriented with gravity as the mycellium "know" it...SCGT states that if you flip the cake the shrooms will try to grow from the original orientation and that you'll have fewer shrooms grow from the cakes...and if you ever look at pics in the pictures forums or galleries, you'll see a LOT of cakes that have been flipped with the verm side down and have lots of tiny pins and shrooms trying to grow from the bottom of the cake out the sides. Possible evidence of keeping the verm layer topside once birthed.

Also, I was told that once your cakes start fruiting you want to try and avoid allowing the caps to drop spores on the cake cause they will not grow more shrooms out of an area that spores have covered. Wouldn't keeping the verm topside of the cakes facing up help keep the spores that do fall on to the cake from hitting/covering the mycellium underneath?

Just looking for opinions based upon your actual grows...

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Re: Jar to Cake Position Debate: New Angle [Re: Boppity604]
    #667723 - 06/07/02 05:17 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Verm side down dude....After you birth em you can put a layer of damp verm on the top. Its called double ended casing tek. It works great. Problem solved. Gravity has nothing to do with it. If you expose your jars to light to induce invitro pinning then flip the jars over. Shrooms will grow toward light.

You're supposed to pick em before they drop spores too BTW.



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Re: Jar to Cake Position Debate: New Angle [Re: bassplayer74]
    #667769 - 06/07/02 06:10 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

>>You're supposed to pick em before they drop spores too BTW.

I understand that...but I also understand that some times they'll cap out while you're either at work or asleep so sometimes it can't be helped.

Thanks for the advice. Anyone know why people do the flip to begin with? Are there TEKs out there that say to?

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Re: Jar to Cake Position Debate: New Angle [Re: Boppity604]
    #667796 - 06/07/02 06:31 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

The whole subject of which side goes up has always confused me, so much conflicting info. So i chose to make mushies able to grow from anywhere on the cake. I will put a little ordimental stand sort of thingie under the cake. Its like the thing you get in the middle of your pizza but bigger. Only 4 little metal points will touch the cake. So if it pinnes a little on the bottom it'll be ok. I haven't tried this but i will one i birth my cakes. What do ya'll think of my idea?

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