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High School Student Interrogated About Father's Marijuana Use
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High School Student Interrogated

Shannon Pakonen told a House committee Thursday that his 15-year-old son, Sam, was interrogated this week by a teacher at Brooklyn Junior High School in Brooklyn Park about his father's use of marijuana for medical purposes.

The incident, Pakonen said, demonstrates the need for legislation to authorize medical use of the drug.

Lisa Hunter Jensen, the Osseo School District's director of school/community relations, said the district had only sketchy information about the incident from the school's principal but said the district is investigating the matter further.

Telephone calls and e-mails to the school's principal and assistant principal as well as the Osseo School District's superintendent and school board members were not returned Thursday.

Sam Pakonen was pulled out of math class and told to report to his speech teacher, his father said. While there, the teacher asked him about his father. Were there marijuana plants in his house? Did he ever see his father smoke pot?

No, he replied.

That was on Tuesday. Two days earlier, Sam's father, Shannon, had been quoted in a Star Tribune story about a bill in the Legislature to allow the use of medical marijuana in the state. He was quoted saying he occasionally used marijuana to reduce tics and spasms caused by Tourette's syndrome, a neurological disorder. Shannon Pakonen had also testified in support of the bill last month in a Senate committee hearing.

On Thursday, Shannon Pakonen relayed Sam's story to members of the House Health and Human Services Committee, which took testimony on the medical marijuana bill and could vote on the measure as early as today.

"My son should not have to be treated like a criminal on the basis that he is my son," Pakonen told the committee.

Sam Pakonen was in the audience. After the hearing he retold the story. He said he was told to report to the speech teacher because his physical education teacher reported having difficulty understanding him. He was born prematurely and has several developmental disabilities. While he said he sometimes has difficulty with his speech, the physical education teacher had never made that claim in seven months of having him in his class.

The speech teacher asked the questions about the marijuana.

Measure stirs controversy

Shannon Pakonen, who said he obtains the marijuana from friends and does not smoke it in front of his son, said the actions at the school help illustrate the problems associated with the medical use of marijuana today.

A proposal that would have Minnesota join eight other states in approving such use has bipartisan support in the House and Senate but Gov. Tim Pawlenty opposes the measure, fearing that it sends the wrong message about the dangers of the drug.

Other opponents, such as the Minnesota Family Council and the Minnesota County Attorneys Association, have testified that marijuana could end up in the wrong hands.

Pakonen said he called an assistant principal at the school to complain on Wednesday and was told the physical education teacher was curious because she suffered from chronic pain. He was told that Sam had brought up the issue of medical marijuana. The boy said that never happened.

"I think they were trying to make the case to take my son away from me," Shannon Pakonen said after the hearing. "They want to victimize someone. I was going to be punished for exercising my right to speak out."

While unfamiliar with the specifics of the case, Barry Feld, a professor at the University of Minnesota law school specializing in juvenile justice, said police, teachers or other people in authority have a right to ask about allegations of impropriety, particularly if it involves potential child abuse or neglect.

"They would certainly be in a position to ask the kid about what goes on in the house," Feld said.

But Feld said there are statutes protecting family communications from being used against someone.

"It's to encourage kids to talk to their parents about problems," he said.

One of the measure's supporters is Rep. Steve Sviggum, R-Kenyon, a former House speaker who once opposed the use of medical marijuana but has since signed on as a co-author.

"This is an example of why we need to pass this kind of bill," Sviggum said after being told about the school incident.


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Re: High School Student Interrogated About Father's Marijuana Use [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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That is disgusting on so many levels.

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Re: High School Student Interrogated About Father's Marijuana Use [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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OneMoreRobot3021 said:
High School Student Interrogated
Tim Pawlenty opposes the measure, fearing that it sends the wrong message about the dangers of the drug.



MOTHER FUCKER, "the dangers of the drug"? Two members of my family are addicted to prescribed pain and depression medications - isn't that dangerous? They steal from the family to buy other drugs, and they can't even support themselves. Weed does not cause this. I want an answer, to a simple question: What kinds of dangers does weed possess?!

These people need to be made to listen.

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John Doe (Se7en) said:
Wanting people to listen, you can't just tap them on the shoulder anymore. You have to hit them with a sledgehammer, and then you'll notice you've got their strict attention.



I think that quote has some real meaning here.

Edited by fiXXXer (03/09/07 11:06 AM)

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Re: High School Student Interrogated About Father's Marijuana Use [Re: fiXXXer]
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Are you kidding me? marijuana is extremely dangerous compared to alcohol/tobacco! I mean getting the munchies and being couch locked is just TERRIBLE.


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Re: High School Student Interrogated About Father's Marijuana Use [Re: Liquid_Dimension]
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Liquid_Dimension said:
Are you kidding me? marijuana is extremely dangerous compared to alcohol/tobacco! I mean getting the munchies and being couch locked is just TERRIBLE.


Damn I was feeling like that earlier, I'm a monster! I got really baked, popped some popcorn, and watched Borat. :lol:

I still have the munchies, I think there is a pizza I can cook yet. My god, its worse than getting drunk and causing fatal traffic accidents! :shocked:

:grin: :stoned:


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Like being here
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Re: High School Student Interrogated About Father's Marijuana Use [Re: Dihnekis]
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Dihnekis said:
That is disgusting on so many levels.


Yes.


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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis

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Re: High School Student Interrogated About Father's Marijuana Use [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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i'd say the most disgusting part is the fathers freak out about this incident. i really doubt any teacher would see marijuana use(abuse) as priority. this is probably the father misjudging the situation and making it worse. im guessing little sam let something slip in school and just kept lying. good job sam, asshole.
lets try to legalize cannabis, not make it look like a joke.
i hate new york


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Re: High School Student Interrogated About Father's Marijuana Use [Re: burtonRebel]
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burtonRebel said: this is probably the father misjudging the situation


Yea this i'd think it is safe to assume the father knows what he is doing and would know if he is blowing this out of prportion better than you do, to be honest. That wasn't to be mean or anything. Plus that would own if my parents smoked weed. I have soo many friends whose parents smoke and I envy them, there so lucky. But yeah this is pretty fucked up how they're in their families business like that. Hopefully no actions are placed against the father or the son is taken away or something bad like that over some weed. I mean if someone had to smoke weed, it would be his father, not like some kid just trying to get high and all.


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Re: High School Student Interrogated About Father's Marijuana Use [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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that kid's dad almost got pwn3d by his kid

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Re: High School Student Interrogated About Father's Marijuana Use [Re: Boom]
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nah hes a douche, i stick to my previous statement. some people draw horrible attention to medical marijuana


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Re: High School Student Interrogated About Father's Marijuana Use [Re: burtonRebel]
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I can't believe that anyone could say that.

Do you know that there was a time and place where things like this happened on a massive scale? It was Nazi Germany. Wives where turned against husbands, children against fathers, and fathers against children. The government would come knocking at your door and pressure and threaten you into making statements against your own family. They would use every vile interrogation trick in the book to get a child to say that his father was a traitor and didn't support the government. Things like even possessing pamphlets or having expressed political views not inline with the government would have you drug down to Gestapo headquarters and tortured. Often to death.

If you want to live in a state where you can be hauled away and have teeth pulled because you didn't clap loudly enough after watching your mandatory government propaganda film or political speech, then be my guest. As this story illustrates it has already gone way too far in that direction.

This story had nothing to do with the welfare of a child. It was a case of the government trying to take his child away for expressing his views and political opinions. He spoke a dissenting opinion of the government and tried to change it like any good American should when they feel that their government is doing something morally wrong. And for that they tried to get his young child to speak against his father about something that would get him taken away from his family.

I can think of almost no other sick and despicable evil worse than that.


-FF

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Re: High School Student Interrogated About Father's Marijuana Use [Re: fastfred]
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fastfred said:
I can't believe that anyone could say that.

Do you know that there was a time and place where things like this happened on a massive scale? It was Nazi Germany. Wives where turned against husbands, children against fathers, and fathers against children. The government would come knocking at your door and pressure and threaten you into making statements against your own family. They would use every vile interrogation trick in the book to get a child to say that his father was a traitor and didn't support the government. Things like even possessing pamphlets or having expressed political views not inline with the government would have you drug down to Gestapo headquarters and tortured. Often to death.

If you want to live in a state where you can be hauled away and have teeth pulled because you didn't clap loudly enough after watching your mandatory government propaganda film or political speech, then be my guest. As this story illustrates it has already gone way too far in that direction.

This story had nothing to do with the welfare of a child. It was a case of the government trying to take his child away for expressing his views and political opinions. He spoke a dissenting opinion of the government and tried to change it like any good American should when they feel that their government is doing something morally wrong. And for that they tried to get his young child to speak against his father about something that would get him taken away from his family.

I can think of almost no other sick and despicable evil worse than that.


-FF



and soviet russia.


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Re: High School Student Interrogated About Father's Marijuana Use [Re: fastfred]
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fastfred said:
I can't believe that anyone could say that.

Do you know that there was a time and place where things like this happened on a massive scale? It was Nazi Germany. Wives where turned against husbands, children against fathers, and fathers against children. The government would come knocking at your door and pressure and threaten you into making statements against your own family. They would use every vile interrogation trick in the book to get a child to say that his father was a traitor and didn't support the government. Things like even possessing pamphlets or having expressed political views not inline with the government would have you drug down to Gestapo headquarters and tortured. Often to death.

If you want to live in a state where you can be hauled away and have teeth pulled because you didn't clap loudly enough after watching your mandatory government propaganda film or political speech, then be my guest. As this story illustrates it has already gone way too far in that direction.

This story had nothing to do with the welfare of a child. It was a case of the government trying to take his child away for expressing his views and political opinions. He spoke a dissenting opinion of the government and tried to change it like any good American should when they feel that their government is doing something morally wrong. And for that they tried to get his young child to speak against his father about something that would get him taken away from his family.

I can think of almost no other sick and despicable evil worse than that.


-FF


I agree completely. This is a very serious issue, because they tried to take that man's son away. Think about it... they were looking to get the kid placed in foster care, because of statements he made at the state legislature. This isn't just taking your bud and giving you a fine/probation, this man's son was in danger of being taken from him... something I find completely unacceptable in a "free" society.

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