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Cheap ass fighter
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http://www.fighttips.com/fights/street-fights/felony-fights-%11-ko-2006053033/

Fuck I hate guys that can't fight fair. Buddy was clearly knocked out and the other guy continued to wail on him, stomping him, dropping knees on his head. Pretty brutal.

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Re: Cheap ass fighter [Re: Spooge]
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I'm not sure what you're expecting from "Felony Fights" but if it's two dudes going at it with rules and regulations I think you're looking in the wrong place.

Amateur fights are really what gives MMA a bad name. 1 death as a result from an MMA bout compared to 100+ from boxing matches doesn't mean shit to most people because of all the stories they hear of unsanctioned fights ending in deaths or severe injuries.


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Re: Cheap ass fighter [Re: Jadian]
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But even organized street fights like this are usually more regulated by people. I mean you ever watch Kimbo do his thing... I guess that's a little different though.

From what I've seen ass soon as the dude hit the ground it would be stopped because he was clearly knocked out, or at least stopped after he got hit once while down. Allowing two knees in then stopping is ridiculous. I also don't understand why you would do that as a fighter, I mean it's not like they're fighting because they have problems with each other (at least I don't think), they're doing it for entertainment basically. So I just don't see what would motivate someone to go overkill in something like that when it's being recorded and if the dude gets severely fucked up it could be your ass.


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Re: Cheap ass fighter [Re: jewunit]
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I'm not even gonna watch the fight, but I can tell you exactly why it happened.

Two guys thinking they're hardasses trying to prove something. They can't do it in any real way so they do unskilled, no rules street fights. One guy thinks he's more badass by trying to hurt the other one as much as possible.

Am I close or what?


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Re: Cheap ass fighter [Re: Jadian]
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I guess, I mean he wasn't like a bitch about it afterwards or anything though. I just think some people do these things and get carried away when they fight, regardless of why they are fighting, and I don't blame them. If I get in a fight I stop if I've obviously beat the other guy, and I expect the same from them (I'm not gonna sit here and say I've won every fight I've been in), but I also expect my friends or their friends to end it when it should be, and that always happens. So if you're the people "putting on" this kind of thing and recording it, I would expect them to do the same. I put more blame on the people who "organized" it then the fighter.


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Re: Cheap ass fighter [Re: Jadian]
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Jadian said:
I'm not sure what you're expecting from "Felony Fights" but if it's two dudes going at it with rules and regulations I think you're looking in the wrong place.

Amateur fights are really what gives MMA a bad name.  1 death as a result from an MMA bout compared to 100+ from boxing matches doesn't mean shit to most people because of all the stories they hear of unsanctioned fights ending in deaths or severe injuries.



I wasn't expecting anything, except exactly what I posted :rolleyes:

Regardless of being an "amateur fight" or not, where I come from there are still ethics to being in a fight.  Even a bar fight has a "code" of rules up north here.

That shit would never fly.  You were exactly right though...both thought they were badass, both have done time and think they are tough shit.  They started the fight, the mexican guy one punched the white dude who went down hard, hitting his head pretty hard on the way down and was pretty much out cold, but the other guy didn't stop there.  Mounted him, preceeded to throw huge punches to the sides of his face and back of his head and then stood up and started dropping down with his a knee a few times on his head.

It was utterly sickening.  Like the topic suggested, I just don't understand how people can fight so fucking cheap.

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Re: Cheap ass fighter [Re: jewunit]
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jewunit said:
But even organized street fights like this are usually more regulated by people. I mean you ever watch Kimbo do his thing... I guess that's a little different though.





Thats funny you mention Kimbo.

I had never heard of the guy, but one of the guys from work was telling me just last week that I had to check out his fights.

He seems pretty bad-ass...

I'm not saying he could beat up top MMA guys...But in a street fight?


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Re: Cheap ass fighter [Re: Madtowntripper]
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Kimbo's pretty bad ass. Pretty much any video online is of him winning.

There is one fight where he ends up losing a long fight to a professional MMA fighter, but Kimbo is purely a stand up, no kicks fighter, so when the MMA guy started throwing knees and shit around Kimbo had no chance. The guy is serious though, one tough fucker. They're very professional about it though, at least as far as street fights go.


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Re: Cheap ass fighter [Re: jewunit]
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I saw the one where he loses to a Boston Cop, I don't think he's ever fought a real MMA fighter though.


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Re: Cheap ass fighter [Re: Jadian]
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Yeah, that Boston cop was apparently a MMA fighter?

I dont know that to be true, but thats what I read on Wikipedia.


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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

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Re: Cheap ass fighter [Re: Madtowntripper]
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kimbo lives next to me

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Re: Cheap ass fighter [Re: Jadian]
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Jadian said:
I saw the one where he loses to a Boston Cop, I don't think he's ever fought a real MMA fighter though.



Yeah, I guess he could be classified as an mma, but I don't really consider him one.

He fought one fight at UFC 55 against Brandon Lee Hinkle and got pretty worked, lost by tko at 4:14 of the first round.

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Re: Cheap ass fighter [Re: Spooge]
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Either way he's trained in the MMA style and Kimbo isn't. So he should win every time if they fight with MMA "rules" (since it's not a sanctioned fight or anything obviously the rules aren't really rules or whatever.)

Just like I wouldn't expect a UFC fighter to win a boxing match, or a boxer win a UFC match.


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Re: Cheap ass fighter [Re: jewunit]
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jewunit said:
Either way he's trained in the MMA style and Kimbo isn't. So he should win every time if they fight with MMA "rules" (since it's not a sanctioned fight or anything obviously the rules aren't really rules or whatever.)

Just like I wouldn't expect a UFC fighter to win a boxing match, or a boxer win a UFC match.



The only reason they gave him the fight, as it's cited everywhere anyhow, is because of that video with kimbo.  They needed a spot to fill and decided to give this cop from boston a call, who had a video fighting this "kimbo" dude.

He hardly shows any skill at mma.

And that fight was bullshit.  They say kimbo only does standup...well then why, before Gannon started doing anything "mma style", did kimbo go for a lazy ass shoot?  He was getting tired, hurt or both and shoots for the leg of the cop, trying to pick him up and shit and that's when the cop started trying to put a choke on him and gave him some knees to the head.

And then kimbo says he only accepts bare knuckle stand ups.  In that particular video you see his friends and whatnot getting in and getting all pissed because the cop started trying to choke him.  What a hypocrite :rolleyes:

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Re: Cheap ass fighter [Re: Spooge]
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Kimbo didn't throw any knees though.

Yeah, in the long run, the dude probably would have won anyway, Kimbo was definitely tired. But we can't sit here and deny the fact that Kimbo is a bad ass motherfucker just because of that one fight.


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Re: Cheap ass fighter [Re: jewunit]
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jewunit said:
Kimbo didn't throw any knees though.

Yeah, in the long run, the dude probably would have won anyway, Kimbo was definitely tired. But we can't sit here and deny the fact that Kimbo is a bad ass motherfucker just because of that one fight.



What I'm saying is, throwing knees is somethign done in mma. Kimbo is known saying many times that he ONLY does stand-up bare knuckle fights...no mma whatsoever.

Buddy only started doing chokes, and then knees afterwards, after kimbo already broke his own rules.

I'm not denying at all, that dude is badass. I would never want to be hit by that gorilla. I don't know why he doesn't train in boxing. Supposedly though, he's been training mma with Charles Mcarthy(poor choice in my opinion)

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Re: Cheap ass fighter [Re: Spooge]
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I don't really know shit about MMA. I mean I know how it works and everything, but I don't know any of the people involved.

I think what happened was Kimbo got tired and acted on instincts because it's a situation he wasn't used to, and went for the knees to try and just get some rest and take less hard punches, and in the end payed for it by breaking his own rules.

There's one video of him in some dudes back yard and they go at it for a little and then Kimbo is like "That's all you got, fucking hit me! Hit me!" and just stands there with his guard down and lets the dude hook him. He is unphased by the hit then just proceeds to whoops his ass.

What I like about Kimbo fights is in the end they're always sportsmen about it, unless his opponent is an asshole. They always like make sure he's straight, compliment them for even going at it with him and shit like that. That's what street fights should be.


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Re: Cheap ass fighter [Re: jewunit]
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Saying Kimbo fights are "how street fights should be" has so much wrong with it I'm not even going to start, but I see what you mean.

Seeing two people with no skills beat on each other just isn't interesting to me. Watching a chess match of punches, kicking, and grappling put on by two experienced fighters is my obsession of sorts. It's "more graceful than a Russian ballet" as someone once said.


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Re: Cheap ass fighter [Re: Jadian]
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Watching an organized fight is far superior, but IF I'm going to watch a street fight (which I clearly do sometimes), I want it to be carried out like most of Kimbo's are carried out.


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Re: Cheap ass fighter [Re: jewunit]
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I don't understand a "stand up only bare knuckle street fight."

If it's a street fight, use whatever the fuck you want or can. It's a fucking street fight, that's why it's called that, and not an organized fight.


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