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My freind got crazy on e!
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An old freind of mine has been depressed for a few months since his girlfreind of 3 years tanked the relationship and dumped him. I invited him to come visit me last weekend and I took him to a rave. He had never rolled before but I thought it might be good for him. We both took 125-130mgs of molly.

At first when it hit him it was as I expected he started to smile and dance with a girl that was with us. When mine hit I started to feel depression and fear, which seems to happen pretty commonly if I take less than 140mg. My freind was concerned for me and when I left the trance room he went to find me.

Where it started to go weird: He told my freinds he was concerned for me and that someone needed to lick my balls to make me feel better. Then he started to get extremely sexual with the girl he had been dancing with, and they ended up doing some oral/anal/intercourse stuff before security caught them. Then he he started to suck on my other freind's nipple and tried to stick his hand up her skirt and put his finger in her ass while she was dancing. Gradually he became more and more sexual and agressive.

He started talking incessantly. He would go up to me freinds and random strangers and start talking in an agressive tone that bordered on shouting. He get really close to them, wouldn't look them in the eye and he seemed not to be listening to them. He run on and on about how much he was hurt by his ex, he loved his parents, that he had been afraid to do what he wanted, and then he told my freinds all of these weird sexual fantasies like he wanted to have anal sex and humiliate one of my freinds. His body posture began to look angry and violent. At the same time he would say that he loved everyone and he was so empathic and sensitive to people.

We started to get very sketched out because his speech seemed to be an argument withsome imaginary person who was not the person who was listening( himself) and his behavior was very out of context for the people he was with. He started touching people way too much and alot of us started to become scared of him. He would say "Why does everyone look so concerned?" He started to seem paranoid but claimed he was feeling great. He has NO IDEA that his behavior was becomming totally out of line and he was intimidating people.

I tried to move him away from the girl he had been dancing with because he was grabbing her strongly and swinging her around. She seemed OK with SOME of it, but she seemed to be drunk and have self-esteem problems. As I tried to restrain him he was moving his arms very forcefully with his hands balled in a fist. He didn't understand what was wrong with "loving everyone" and "doing what he wanted". He appeared to be perceptive about how people around him were feeling, but had absolutely no self-awareness that he was being agressive and scary. It was like he had a superman complex where everything he wanted to do was right, and despite people being "concerned" he thought he wasn't behaving socially unacceptable.

He kept barking at me as I sat down I had to tell him "I'm down here," as he wasn't looking at me at all. He said he wanted to call his parents and tell them he loved them, but then right after that he decided he wanted to find a man to have sex with even though he has never been gay. He said it would gross him out but he would regret if he didn't do it while he was rolling.

In the car home I tried to tell him that he had been out of control and that he was scaring me and other people. He kept say "stop bullshitting me. I asked people if what I was doing was ok and they said it was so you're just saying this to try and bring me down," He really believed that he was in tune with other people, was listening to them and respecting their boundaries when to the rest of us he seemed dominating and psychotic. He did not believe that he had really done anything wrong.

I found out later that he is manic-depressive but doesn't take medication. He stayed one more night at my house and started getting afraid that someone would come through the door and attack him even though he knew it wouldn't happen. I fed him huge amounts of 5-htp but even this morning he was very depressed and physicaly ill. He seems to have the stomach flu. It might have to do with sticking his tongue up a girls ass.

He said he got alot out of it, and I'm trying to support him, but I'm still really weirded out by the incident.

As for me and my roll, I got a little out of it, it was weak for me despite large preloading and much of the time I had to take care of him and try to calm him down from his superman complex.

WTF? I'll be the first to admit that I don't always feel happy rolling and that I have some pretty hard times with fear and anxiety rolling, but I've never heard of someone so agressive and out of touch with reality on e. I feel like I always want to listen and just chill out and feel calm. Sometimes I need to talk, but not endlessly to the point that I am retelling sexual fantasies to strangers and freaking them out.


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1. "After an hour I wasn't feeling anything so I decided to take another..."
2. "We were feeling pretty good so we decided to smoke a few bowls..."
3. "I had to be real quiet because my parents were asleep upstairs..."

Edited by Divided_Sky (02/19/07 05:41 PM)

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Re: My freind got crazy on e! [Re: Divided_Sky]
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thats fucking weird hes probably a schiz


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Re: My freind got crazy on e! [Re: Divided_Sky]
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don't give that guy any more drugs, and keep him away from females.

Problem solved :grin:


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Re: My freind got crazy on e! [Re: DeathCompany]
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Could be, though I've heard even they are more under control on e. Seems like some dopamine inbalance or something because it looked like aphetamine psychosis.

I feel really guilty for bringing him and letting him have the molly. I thought it would help.


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1. "After an hour I wasn't feeling anything so I decided to take another..."
2. "We were feeling pretty good so we decided to smoke a few bowls..."
3. "I had to be real quiet because my parents were asleep upstairs..."

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Re: My freind got crazy on e! [Re: DeathCompany]
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I've seen people do similar things when spun.

They think they are so funny and amusing, but everyone just feels sorry for them. :shrug:

Minus one ghey friend, eh?

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Re: My freind got crazy on e! [Re: Divided_Sky]
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jesus


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Re: My freind got crazy on e! [Re: notapillow]
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iv seen some one get extrmely vilent and dilusinal on acid. like hitting and pushing me. screaming at people. fliping of helpful people because he thought (they where trying to get back to the hotel so they could fuck him)


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Re: My freind got crazy on e! [Re: notapillow]
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If people told me I did that sort of shit (and I had no recollection of it) while on drugs ... I'd become very introverted and even more reclusive.

Fucking weirdo...

I feel sorry for the various women he sexually asulted.


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"I only ever hope to reach equilibrium, in Nature's matrix, in line with the meridian" ~ Jehst

:sun: "...and I know that I have to keep breathing, as tomorrow the sun will rise, who knows what the tide will bring?" :sun:

Free Spore Ring Europe
Send any spare spore prints you might have and help the distribution :grin:

Open Source. Freedom.  GNU/Linux

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Re: My freind got crazy on e! [Re: notapillow]
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notapillow said:
jesus



You said it man... nobody fucks with the Jesus!


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Re: My freind got crazy on e! [Re: ArthurDent42]
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Well to his credit, he didn't 'actually' hurt anyone and I think when people told him strongly to stop specfic things he did (that was his "heightened empathy"), but he didn't see what was wrong in the first place or that he was being creepy.

I've know him at least 16 years. Didn't think he got that nutty.


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1. "After an hour I wasn't feeling anything so I decided to take another..."
2. "We were feeling pretty good so we decided to smoke a few bowls..."
3. "I had to be real quiet because my parents were asleep upstairs..."

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Re: My freind got crazy on e! [Re: Divided_Sky]
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hows he on other drugs?


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Re: My freind got crazy on e! [Re: Divided_Sky]
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He should be shot. I know if he was saying shit like that to me I would have stuck him right in the nose. And I'm not a violent person at all. But that's just what I think of the situation.


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Re: My freind got crazy on e! [Re: DR. PRIME]
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i guess e does make you gay. :shrug:
looks like i was right the whole time :wink:


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Re: My freind got crazy on e! [Re: Divided_Sky]
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Nothing wrong w/sticking your tongue up a chicks ass every now and then. :thumbup:

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Re: My freind got crazy on e! [Re: VoidOfsPg]
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Yeah E tends to amplify some issues in people. I hope he is feeling better and can get some help with depression.

here is a pic that reminded me of your avatar. enjoy.

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Re: My freind got crazy on e! [Re: Cepheus]
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aManEater said:
don't give that guy any more drugs, and keep him away from females.

Problem solved :grin:



:thumbup:


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Re: My freind got crazy on e! [Re: Divided_Sky]
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Divided_Sky said:
An old freind of mine has been depressed for a few months since his girlfreind of 3 years tanked the relationship and dumped him. I invited him to come visit me last weekend and I took him to a rave. He had never rolled before but I thought it might be good for him. We both took 125-130mgs of molly.

At first when it hit him it was as I expected he started to smile and dance with a girl that was with us. When mine hit I started to feel depression and fear, which seems to happen pretty commonly if I take less than 140mg. My freind was concerned for me and when I left the trance room he went to find me.

Where it started to go weird: He told my freinds he was concerned for me and that someone needed to lick my balls to make me feel better. Then he started to get extremely sexual with the girl he had been dancing with, and they ended up doing some oral/anal/intercourse stuff before security caught them. Then he he started to suck on my other freind's nipple and tried to stick his hand up her skirt and put his finger in her ass while she was dancing. Gradually he became more and more sexual and agressive.

He started talking incessantly. He would go up to me freinds and random strangers and start talking in an agressive tone that bordered on shouting. He get really close to them, wouldn't look them in the eye and he seemed not to be listening to them. He run on and on about how much he was hurt by his ex, he loved his parents, that he had been afraid to do what he wanted, and then he told my freinds all of these weird sexual fantasies like he wanted to have anal sex and humiliate one of my freinds. His body posture began to look angry and violent. At the same time he would say that he loved everyone and he was so empathic and sensitive to people.

We started to get very sketched out because his speech seemed to be an argument withsome imaginary person who was not the person who was listening( himself) and his behavior was very out of context for the people he was with. He started touching people way too much and alot of us started to become scared of him. He would say "Why does everyone look so concerned?" He started to seem paranoid but claimed he was feeling great. He has NO IDEA that his behavior was becomming totally out of line and he was intimidating people.

I tried to move him away from the girl he had been dancing with because he was grabbing her strongly and swinging her around. She seemed OK with SOME of it, but she seemed to be drunk and have self-esteem problems. As I tried to restrain him he was moving his arms very forcefully with his hands balled in a fist. He didn't understand what was wrong with "loving everyone" and "doing what he wanted". He appeared to be perceptive about how people around him were feeling, but had absolutely no self-awareness that he was being agressive and scary. It was like he had a superman complex where everything he wanted to do was right, and despite people being "concerned" he thought he wasn't behaving socially unacceptable.

He kept barking at me as I sat down I had to tell him "I'm down here," as he wasn't looking at me at all. He said he wanted to call his parents and tell them he loved them, but then right after that he decided he wanted to find a man to have sex with even though he has never been gay. He said it would gross him out but he would regret if he didn't do it while he was rolling.

In the car home I tried to tell him that he had been out of control and that he was scaring me and other people. He kept say "stop bullshitting me. I asked people if what I was doing was ok and they said it was so you're just saying this to try and bring me down," He really believed that he was in tune with other people, was listening to them and respecting their boundaries when to the rest of us he seemed dominating and psychotic. He did not believe that he had really done anything wrong.

I found out later that he is manic-depressive but doesn't take medication. He stayed one more night at my house and started getting afraid that someone would come through the door and attack him even though he knew it wouldn't happen. I fed him huge amounts of 5-htp but even this morning he was very depressed and physicaly ill. He seems to have the stomach flu. It might have to do with sticking his tongue up a girls ass.

He said he got alot out of it, and I'm trying to support him, but I'm still really weirded out by the incident.

As for me and my roll, I got a little out of it, it was weak for me despite large preloading and much of the time I had to take care of him and try to calm him down from his superman complex.

WTF? I'll be the first to admit that I don't always feel happy rolling and that I have some pretty hard times with fear and anxiety rolling, but I've never heard of someone so agressive and out of touch with reality on e. I feel like I always want to listen and just chill out and feel calm. Sometimes I need to talk, but not endlessly to the point that I am retelling sexual fantasies to strangers and freaking them out.



LOL


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TACOS LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER

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Re: My freind got crazy on e! [Re: ArthurDent42]
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ArthurDent42 said:
notapillow said:
jesus



You said it man... nobody fucks with the Jesus!



:rofl:


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Re: My freind got crazy on e! [Re: TuneInTurnOn]
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Quote:
....this morning he was very depressed and physicaly ill. He seems to have the stomach flu. It might have to do with sticking his tongue up a girls ass.



Hepatitis A, meet crazy guy. Crazy guy, the Hep.


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He was a cowboy in one of the seven days a week fights. No business, no hangout; no friends, nothing; just what you pick up and what you need.

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Re: My freind got crazy on e! [Re: Kid_Orgo]
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Some people are just fuckin nuts. One weird thing that happens to me on X is I start thinking like an anarchist and talk mass amounts of shit to anyone that seems like an authority figure. I got into trouble once or twice for messing with bouncers.


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