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OfflineMystiq_Shaman
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Salvia In US air force
    #3082351 - 09/02/04 01:01 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Plant could get airmen in legal hot water

by Jeanne Grimes
Oklahoma City Air Logistics Center Public Affairs

1/8/2004 - TINKER AIR FORCE BASE, Okla. (AFPN) -- A hallucinogenic plant, lawful to possess and use, is being reviewed as a controlled substance that could land airmen in legal hot water.

The plant, Salvia divinorum is a perennial herb related to sage and a botanical cousin to an ornamental favored by gardeners, said Ven Sovo, of Tinker's Joint Drug Enforcement Team operating out of the Air Force Office of Special Investigations, Detachment 114.

The team is taking its lead from Air Force Instruction 36-3208, Administrative Separation of Airmen, which identifies drug abuse as "the illegal, wrongful or improper use, possession, sale, transfer or introduction onto a military installation of any drug," Mr. Sovo said.

The instruction casts a wide net, defining drugs as "any intoxicating substance, other than alcohol, that is inhaled, injected, consumed or introduced into the body in any manner for purposes of altering mood or function."

Salvia divinorum fills that bill and the Drug Enforcement Administration includes the plant in its "drugs and chemicals of concern," Mr. Sovo said.

"It's currently under review by the medical and scientific community to determine if it should be a controlled substance," one investigator said. Federal law ranks controlled substances in five schedules according to their potential for abuse, availability and effects on the user.

Tinker's drug team members were told that airmen in uniform have been seen buying Salvia divinorum. Users in Tinker's military population may number "as high as 100 or more," Mr. Sovo said.

DEA officials report the drug is smoked to induce hallucinations, "the diversity of which are being described ... similar to those induced by ketamine, mescaline or psilocybin." Sellers offer both dried plant material and the plant's extract, investigators here said.

The user population appears limited to younger adults and adolescents "influenced by the promotion of the drug on Internet sites," DEA experts said. One such site has published a user's guide that promises to "teach you how to work with this herb in a way that is personally rewarding and how to do so as safely as possible."

But online research convinced JDET members the plant is not harmless and they have read the accounts of between 200 and 300 individuals who have tried Salvia divinorum.

"Almost all of them have been scared by this drug," they said, adding most users report an "LSD-type reaction." (Courtesy of Air Force Materiel Command News Service)


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Re: Salvia In US air force [Re: Mystiq_Shaman]
    #3082366 - 09/02/04 01:05 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

"The user population appears limited to younger adults and adolescents "influenced by the promotion of the drug on Internet sites," DEA experts said. One such site has published a user's guide that promises to "teach you how to work with this herb in a way that is personally rewarding and how to do so as safely as possible."


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Re: Salvia In US air force [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #3082991 - 09/02/04 03:38 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

....they're watching us....


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Re: Salvia In US air force [Re: HarveyWalbanger]
    #3083028 - 09/02/04 03:47 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

they've been watching us


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Offlinekeepontruckin
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Re: Salvia In US air force [Re: Shroomism]
    #3083036 - 09/02/04 03:51 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

They're always watching "us."


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Re: Salvia In US air force [Re: Mystiq_Shaman]
    #3083052 - 09/02/04 03:55 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

wow - lets go ingest an etheogen that has been used in spiritual rituals for centuries, if not a thousand years, then lets go bomb some dirty muslims.

I, for one, hope these military people smoke more salvia - maybe it'll open their head a bit.


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Re: Salvia In US air force [Re: Shroomism]
    #3083061 - 09/02/04 03:58 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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they've been watching us




people need to start collecting salvia cuttings & learning to cultivate instead of relying on vendors, so that when salvia is outlawed, people can still trade cuttings & extracts in the underground.


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Re: Salvia In US air force [Re: Mystiq_Shaman]
    #3083129 - 09/02/04 04:13 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Shit! I better buy some before it is banned.  Why does the government feel the need to ban such a substance?  What harm has it caused? :shake: :cussing: :thebird:


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Re: Salvia In US air force [Re: theocean06]
    #3083146 - 09/02/04 04:23 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Same could be said about marijuana. If they refuse to legalize a substance such as marijuana, which I would argue is safer then Salvia as far as being able to control your mindset and surroundings, then they definitely arent going to like any kind of psychedelic like salvia.


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Re: Salvia In US air force [Re: keepontruckin]
    #3083183 - 09/02/04 04:36 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Well, marijuana is also a "bigger" drug.  Everyone knows about marijuana but for Salvia...not many.  Hell, I asked 4 of my friends if they wanted to try it and only one of them had ever even heard of it, the rest just gave you that blank stare :oogle:


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Re: Salvia In US air force [Re: theocean06]
    #3083509 - 09/02/04 05:43 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I'm in the Air Force right now, my wife as well. We are getting out in 4 and a half months. I'm just so sick of the government right now. Legalize alcohol, the drug that causes fatal accidents, has people blacking out not remembering shit, and getting in fights why don't we. When my wife and I get out, we are going to get so high, I mean so high, like really really high.


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Re: Salvia In US air force [Re: DHJH]
    #3083583 - 09/02/04 05:58 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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DHJH said:
When my wife and I get out, we are going to get so high, I mean so high, like really really high.




haha, that's great.

but this news article on the other hand, is not great. in fact it is ridiculous.

have they ever gave a good reason for making statements such as "..any intoxicating substance, except alcohol.."? I've yet to hear a convincing one.

People should indeed learn to grow their own salvia!


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Re: Salvia In US air force [Re: Vvellum]
    #3083977 - 09/02/04 07:39 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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bi0 said:
wow - lets go ingest an etheogen that has been used in spiritual rituals for centuries, if not a thousand years, then lets go bomb some dirty muslims.

I, for one, hope these military people smoke more salvia - maybe it'll open their head a bit.





The reason they keep bombing the 'dirty muslims' is cos their usual drug of choice is amphetamines. Until 1993, the use of go-pills was pretty much compulsory to combat fatigue during long flights.

http://www.alternet.org/story/13778/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2595641.stm

You are right, would be much better if they stuck to salvia.


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Re: Salvia In US air force [Re: lovelight]
    #3084281 - 09/02/04 09:04 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

amphetamines are implicated in the friendly fire death of several canadians who were stationed there to help the US invasion of afganistan. (which was not exactly necessary)
drugs suck
war sucks more.
death sucks altogether.
is lsd and mushrooms and salvia really part of that mess?
I don't think so.


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Re: Salvia In US air force [Re: HarveyWalbanger]
    #3084315 - 09/02/04 09:13 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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HarveyWalbanger said:
....they're watching us....




Good, watch this.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/files/04-36/417367863-fuck_you.jpg


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Re: Salvia In US air force [Re: Hrethic]
    #3084612 - 09/02/04 10:53 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)



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