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Great Commercial...Simple. Effective.
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Re: Great Commercial...Simple. Effective. [Re: Spooge]
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Yeah but 30 years ago it was only 30 years before we had drastic problems like SF being underwater. Yet it's still above water and ocean levels still haven't risen.

I'm not a big believer in global warming because even after 30 years it's still just a theory.

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Re: Great Commercial...Simple. Effective. [Re: Maverick]
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a theory is a verified or established explanation accounting for known facts or phenomena.

be careful of your word usage...

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Re: Great Commercial...Simple. Effective. [Re: Maverick]
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"Global warming is the observed increase in the average temperature of the Earth's atmosphere and oceans in recent decades."


"There is little doubt that the planet is warming. Over the last century the average temperature has climbed about 1 degree Fahrenheit (0.6 of a degree Celsius) around the world.

The spring ice thaw in the Northern Hemisphere occurs 9 days earlier than it did 150 years ago, and the fall freeze now typically starts 10 days later

The multinational Arctic Climate Impact Assessment (ACIA) report recently concluded that in Alaska, western Canada, and eastern Russia, average temperatures have increased as much as 4 to 7 degrees Fahrenheit (3 to 4 degrees Celsius) in the past 50 years. The rise is nearly twice the global average. In Barrow, Alaska (the U.S.'s northernmost city) average temperatures are up over 4 degrees Fahrenheit (2.5 to 3 degrees Celsius) in 30 years.

The United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) projects that global temperatures will rise an additional 3 to10 degrees Fahrenheit (1.6 to 5.5 degrees Celsius) by century's end.

Over the last million years the Earth has fluctuated between colder and warmer periods. The shifts have occurred in roughly 100,000-year intervals thought to be regulated by sunlight. Earth's sunlight quota depends upon its orbit and celestial orientation.

But changes have also occurred more rapidly in the past—and scientists hope that these changes can tell us more about the current state of climate change. During the last ice age, approximately 70,000 to 11,500 years ago, ice covered much of North America and Europe—yet sudden, sometimes drastic, climate changes occurred during the period. Greenland ice cores indicate one spike in which the area's surface temperature increased by 15 degrees Fahrenheit (9 degrees Celsius) in just 10 years.

Rising temperatures have a dramatic impact on Arctic ice, which serves as a kind of "air conditioner" at the top of the world. Since 1978 Arctic sea ice area has shrunk by some 9 percent per decade, and thinned as well.

ACIA projects that at least half of the Arctic's summer sea ice will melt by century's end, and that the Arctic region is likely to warm 7 to 13 degrees Fahrenheit (4 to 7 degrees Celsius) during the same time.

Vast quantities of fresh water are tied up in the world's many melting glaciers. When Montana's Glacier National Park was created in 1910 it held some 150 glaciers. Now fewer than 30, greatly shrunken glaciers, remain. Tropical glaciers are in even more trouble. The legendary snows of Tanzania's Mount Kilimanjaro 19,340-foot (5,895-meter) peak have melted by some 80 percent since 1912 and could be gone by 2020

Sea levels have risen and fallen many times over the Earth's long geological history. Average global sea level has risen by 4 to 8 inches (10 to 20cm) over the past century according to the IPCC.

The IPCC's 2001 report projects that sea level could rise between 4 and 35 inches (10 to 89cm) by century's end. Such rises could have major effects for coastal dwellers. A 1.5-foot (50-centimeter) sea level rise in flat coastal areas would cause a typical coastline retreat of 150 feet (50 meters).

The ocean's circulation system, known as the ocean conveyor belt, moderates global temperatures by moving tropical heat around the planet. Global warming could alter the balance of this system, via an influx of freshwater from melting ice caps for example, creating unforeseen and possibly fast-paced change.

Climate models suggest that global warming could cause more frequent extreme weather conditions. Intense hurricanes and storm surges could threaten coastal communities, while heat waves, fires and drought could also become more common.
(We are seeing this happen quite a lot these past few years)

In the Arctic the impacts of a warming climate are being felt already. Coastal Indigenous communities report shorter periods of sea ice, which fails to temper ocean storms and their destructive coastal erosion. Increased snow and ice melt have caused higher rivers while thawing permafrost has wreaked havoc with roads and other infrastructure. Some communities have had to move from historic coastline locations.
Sea ice loss is devastating for species that have adapted to the environment, such as polar bears and ringed seals in the Arctic and Antarctic penguins.

By 2050, rising temperatures exacerbated by human-induced belches of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases could send more than a million of Earth's land-dwelling plants and animals down the road to extinction, according to a recent study.
(http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/01/0107_040107_extinction.html)

Coral reefs worldwide are "bleaching". losing key algae and resident organisms, as water temperatures rise above 85 degrees Fahrenheit (29.5 degrees Celsius) through periods of calm, sunny weather. Scientists worry that rapid climate change could inhibit the ability of many species to adapt within complex and interdependent ecosystems."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/12/1206_041206_global_warming.html

http://www.undoit.org/what_is_gb_myth.cfm




It's quite obvious that Global Warming IS happening...fact. It's obvious that even over the past 30 years, fairly drastic changes have occured. And it's also obvious that in 30 years, there will be even more change.

Saying that SF will be underwater is a scare tactic, but one day it will happen. Probably not in 30 years, but eventually it will.

Comments like the SF one are made to put things in perspective to people just blindly ignoring the very real problem.

What i think is a VERY real possibility is SF being completely wiped out from a drastic hurricane.

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Re: Great Commercial...Simple. Effective. [Re: Spooge]
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I've grown too weary of it to even argue with all the propaganda...
:boring:


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You invented the wheel....You push the motherfucker!!

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Re: Great Commercial...Simple. Effective. [Re: ToTheSummit]
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Anyone who doesn't believe in global warming just loves their car too much to listen to their brain...

I mean... I understand people are going to keep burning fuels... but why don't they just smarten the fuck up and admit they know what is going on, so we can at least start to account for the damage we're doing in a more adult fashion...

We're going to look like the hugest scumbags to our children... and for what? So we can sit around and get obese?

Grow up dissenters...


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Know your self.
Know your substance.
Know your source.

The most distorted perspective possible is the perspective that yours is not distorted.

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Re: Great Commercial...Simple. Effective. [Re: Spooge]
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Global climate change (warming in most areas) is very real.  There is a ton of evidence to support this claim.  The great debate is over the cause of this climate shift.  This debate has gone on in many threads already so to reanimate it would be a bit redundant.

Whatever the cause, the climate is changing. But its beside the point, really.

The laws that govern the universe govern our planet as well, right down to every little proton (which are coincidentally the same infinite size as the Universe itself).  These 'laws' are the motivating factor behind everything that has ever happened.  This of course pertains to evolution and the current status of our planet as well.  Gaia, as one tiny (or giant) part of this mechanism will eventually come back into balance through the same "Universal Process" of which Natural Selection is only a part of.  One of an infinite amount of examples is the way a predator-prey relationship works on Earth.  When there is an abundance of rabbits in an area, then the fox population can proliferate with this abundance of food.  Then the fox population climbs up and there are too many foxes for the amount of rabbits left.  So the fox population declines.  Eventually a balance is reached.  That is, until another factor offsets the balance once again. 

Although it now seems foreign to humans, we are very much a part of this process.  I guess you could call it supply-demand.  The Earth will not support our current human activities for much longer, which is why the Earth will change and human activities will change.  Eventually we will share a sustainable relationship with the Earth, by default of the Universal Process.  Unless another factor is introduced, which it surely will be.  Super volcano? Meteor? Who knows.

We are just not used to the scale on which this balance beam teeters, as we scroll through the Shroomery threads - 5:49 pm  5:51 pm  5:55 pm.  Billions of years will pass, until the Sun becomes a red giant and engulfs the Earth.  And it all starts over, as it is right this very instant in an infinite amount of other places/times.

So yes.  We are here.  Right now.  On planet Earth, with a changing climate. We point fingers and claim to be looking at the "bigger" picture as "environmentalists" for the health of our planet.  We parade our BioDiesel bumperstickers and our composting toilets around in front of conservative rightwinged v8-driving Christians who crap in flush toilets all day long. 

My biodiesel sticker is on my truck.  In fact I've got 2 stickers!! And, yes I'm about to build a compost toilet.  And I plan on growing my organic vegetables with a smile on my face, knowing I'm one with my Creator, the Earth and yes folks, even George Bush.

All, God, One, Universe, whatever you label it, here we are.  What an exciting time to be alive! :mushroom2:

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Re: Great Commercial...Simple. Effective. [Re: Spooge]
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Global warming makes me laugh. I take the "natural cycle accelerated by humans" side of the argument.

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Re: Great Commercial...Simple. Effective. [Re: ExplosiveMango]
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I say again.....:yawn:

The ability of man to be so gullible and yet so arrogant in the same breath is astounding.


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Re: Great Commercial...Simple. Effective. [Re: ToTheSummit]
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yea good ad, but we don't even know if it's a threat yet for sure

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Re: Great Commercial...Simple. Effective. [Re: stoneage]
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yah. the world has been here for millions of years... the temp is rising and we're going to melt.

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