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Re: "Nigger" [Re: quiver]
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quiver said:
:lol:
me too

if a black man calls a white man a white cunt the white man will reply with 'who sir are you callin a cunt'?

if a white man calls a black man a black cunt he be aksin 'who you be calling black nigga'?

:lol:


A lot of low life black boys have called me a faggot and I'm not even gay.  This usually happened when I was carrying a knife and tear gas.  I thought of using it, but figured they weren't worth it.  Why get a police record over some boy who isn't worth anything?

When I was robbed and car-jacked years ago at gun point by 5 black boys, it happened in a gay area that I didn't know was gay.  Robbers usually target gays.  This made me lose all sympathy for black people.  Luckily I wasn't shot.  I found my wrecked car a couple blocks away and had it towed to a gas station in my area.  What a waste!  It was a hate crime and the black boys were not prosecuted for it.

I read something recently in the newspapers about now how most murders in Washington DC are as a result of arguements.  Drugs used to be blamed on the majority of murders in DC.  Virtually 100% of these murders involve black murderers and black victims.  Its not worth getting involved.  I live in the suburbs and stay out of most parts of DC.  When I'm in DC, I always keep a lookout and run a lot to avoid bums who threaten to run after me since I don't give them money to them and run from them.  Of course, they can't run after me because they are too lazy.






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Re: "Nigger" [Re: Luddite]
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Luddite: What you have posted about Jackson is very interesting. I have never paid much attention to his appearances, but when I was younger I got the impression that he was respectable. Now I wouldn't be surprised if what this author claims is true. It would be just another case of someone with power abusing it. When was this published?

Concerning the main thread:

The word nigger will probably always have a variety of connotations according to who is using it and who it is directed to. Regardless of whether it is used as an insult or term of endearment, there is no real way to prevent people from using it altogether. What I would say is to use it at your own risk. I had a black friend that didn't mind me calling him "my nigga" and I tend to use it alot when I'm drunk, but I sure as hell wouldn't use it in The Bronx.

In the derogatory sense, I picture niggers as being those who aspire to the gangster/bad ass lifestyle that 50 Cent idealizes. In this sense black people are either niggers or not niggers, just as white people are either wiggers or not wiggers. Being a nigger is just as bad as being a wigger in my opinion, and both are useless human beings.


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Re: "Nigger" [Re: daba]
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Well that's what you get for going to Berkeley...the birthplace of the student protest movement. Naturally you are going to be surrounded by reactionary groups that will find anything to protest against. My school was similar.

Now that I'm in the real world I'm surrounded by all types of black people who have more important things to do than to find some meaningless example of institutional discrimination and whine about it all day. You just have to understand that student groups tend to get a little over-stimulated because they're made up of people who have been chomping at the bit to become politically involved in something for 18 years so they tend to go a little nuts when they get to school, in the same fashion that other students tend to go nuts when it comes to keg parties.

I still don't understand how you see a similarity between groups on your campus protesting a minority of blacks in the engineering department and Islamic terrorists planting car bombs.


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Re: "Nigger" [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
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  Sticks and stones, eh?


Yup.

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  go fuck yourself you white ass pussy piece of shit


How offensive! Oh wait.... it's not.

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  What do you think?


I think the no flame rule is both silly and un-natural.


Are you tring to make a point? If you are, I can't tell what it is...that you don't think its possible to offend other people with words?  :confused:


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Re: "Nigger" [Re: Redstorm]
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Redstorm said:
The reason there are rules against flaming here is that it impedes the progress of serious debate.


What about any other type of posting that impedes serious debate, such as posts that consist merely of "I agree with so-and-so," or posts that are just plain vapid? Even derailments don't facilitate bans the way flaming does.

Flaming is a bannable offense becuase it impedes debate, but also because it is aggressive and combatitive, just like Michael Richards was. Flaming and racial slurs are ugly because they immediately bring people down to the worst level of argument, not because they aren't good debating tools. Michael Richards could have dealt with those hecklers in a million ways...but he lost his cool and attacked them with the word nigger, among other things. Once again it wasn't the word but how he used it, like a weapon, an abuse of power. I just can't believe I'm the only one this board who sees that he stepped over the line and that it was totally obvious that his use of the word was based on racial hatred. Everyone keeps talking about it like it was an innocent slip of the tongue and hey no big deal. Bullshit. Watch the clip again and tell that I'm not right.


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Re: "Nigger" [Re: Luddite]
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we dont have many australian aboriginals around here but they are usually good people when they dont drink,wouldnt trust them as far as i could throw them but good people none the less but now we are starting to get africans who at first were timid and humble,now they are starting to flourish and all the kids wear gang gear,brand new expensive gangwear,the same as american gangwear,i wonder how they picked up the style?

just yesterday i was dropping my son off at taekwondo class and there was a parking space with a little red mazda next to the space with the car door open so i couldnt park and this fat black braided woman knew i was waiting to park and didnt do nothing,so i beeped my horn straight into her face and she waited about ten seconds and then one of her passengers said something in african and then she closed the door and let me park and then she looked at me as if she was going to say something but she decided against it probably because my face was scowling at her
they had the car overloaded too

we're starting to see the arrogance and ignorance


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Re: "Nigger" [Re: quiver]
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> we're starting to see the arrogance and ignorance

You hung a mirror? (sorry, lame joke... couldn't resist)


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Re: "Nigger" [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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Anyone who takes offense at words is an insecure buffoon.

i resent that!


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Re: "Nigger" [Re: wilshire]
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Ponder this...

EVERYONE who has come to America, by choice or by slave trade, has been dealing with the inherent racism of humanity. Humans generally do not like new and different people, and they usually make some kind of name to "label" them.

WOPs, kykes, beaners, spics, micks, chinks... and niggers.

It seems as though everyone but the niggers got over the use of words, went to work, and made lives for themselves. It's been over 150 years and some black people still don't get it.

When the word no longer offends the race, people stop using it... It loses it's power and fades away becoming a simple punchline, or a quickie racial slur no one takes seriously.

Also, maybe Paul Mooney is right... If THEY stopped using it so fucking much, maybe everyone else would. Christians hate when people use GOD DAMN, but Christian rappers DO NOT use it!!!

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Re: "Nigger" [Re: RoosterCogburn]
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good point.

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Re: "Nigger" [Re: Seuss]
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Seuss said:
> we're starting to see the arrogance and ignorance

You hung a mirror?  (sorry, lame joke... couldn't resist)


all my mirrors are cracked :grin:


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Re: "Nigger" [Re: RoosterCogburn]
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RoosterCogburn said:
Ponder this...

EVERYONE who has come to America, by choice or by slave trade, has been dealing with the inherent racism of humanity. Humans generally do not like new and different people, and they usually make some kind of name to "label" them.


If you're going to bring the history of the United States into this, you can't just casually ignore the fact that the term nigger doesn't just mean "black person." The term nigger was used for generations in the post-Reconstruction South to remind black people of their place at the bottom of the hierarchy. The use of the word nigger as a tool went hand in hand with the terrorist tactics of the Klu Klux Klan and was designed to strike a specific fear of violent rebuke into the heart of oppressed recently freed black populations. Such as "a nigger has no place in a voting booth."
You're half-assed attempt at a history lesson of racial labelling in America is idiotic. It doesn't get more pejorative than the word "nigger"
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WOPs, kykes, beaners, spics, micks, chinks... and niggers.


You're telling me these terms aren't offensive? That I could walk up to a Puerto Rican gang and call them all Spics without getting my ass rightfully stomped into the pavement? Or that I could walk around the Upper West Side shouting about Kykes without getting a bagel thrown at me? Did I miss something? When did these terms become unoffensive?

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It seems as though everyone but the niggers got over the use of words, went to work, and made lives for themselves. It's been over 150 years and some black people still don't get it.


The thing I love about bigots is that it never takes them very long to reveal what they really think. At first we were arguing about whether or not the term nigger is offensive. Now all of a sudden we've made a quantum leap into prejudice land. I won't bother pointing out that You are blaming race for the poverty of Blacks and assuming that they do the same. I won't bother pointing out that plenty of black people have jobs and have made lives for themselves. I bet the men at the Michael Richards show had jobs. I won't bother pointing out that a lot of white people don't work and are total failures/losers. The brainwashing administered by your Dad and/or John Wayne movies has blinded you to your surroundings. But I will point out something obvious. Whether or not it's appropriate to call black people niggers has NOTHING to do with YOUR belief that its time for them to "get it" and "make lives for themselves."

Come to think of it, what the hell do you mean by that anyway? Could you define "getting it" and "making lives for themselves" for clarity of argument?

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When the word no longer offends the race, people stop using it... It loses it's power and fades away becoming a simple punchline, or a quickie racial slur no one takes seriously.


Hmmm. So it's their fault. I suppose we could extend that to other offensive acts. If America weren't so offended by 9/11, Al Qaeda would lose its power and fade away...

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Christians hate when people use GOD DAMN, but Christian rappers DO NOT use it!!!


That's why no one takes christian rap seriously.


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Re: "Nigger" [Re: gluke bastid]
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funny how you left out cracker,white cunt,whity,round eye,blue eyed devils and wet chickens from your list of racial insults dont ya think...nigga?


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Re: "Nigger" [Re: gluke bastid]
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I would be willing to bet, that if "black" people stopped using the word "nigger" when referring to themselves, and actually took offense when it was used, (rather than screaming racism as soon as any other race uses the same word) that other people would actually make an effort to stop using it as well.

Kinda hard to respect your dis-like of a word when you use the same word to refer to yourself :crazy2:


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Re: "Nigger" [Re: niteowl]
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they only use it to antagonize other people specificly us whites imo,
kinda like setting a trap for the innocent,they soften its meaning then pounce when someone they dont like uses it,specifically us whites


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Re: "Nigger" [Re: niteowl]
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If I constantly refer to my friends and myself as "rednecks", then whine when someone else calls me a redneck.

It makes me a bigot.

How about "mother fucker" isn't that the term given to white slave owners who raped their female slaves? Another derogatory racial term that became a global term because the "white man" didn't whine and cry "racism" when someone called him a mother fucker.

Black people need to get over themselves and their "nigger" fixation.........

tha nasty mutha fugin niggas :grin:


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Re: "Nigger" [Re: niteowl]
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i never knew that,i always thought a mother fucker was anyone who fucked mothers :lol:

ahh now i see,its an insult calling each other white.

that means 'mother fucking niggers' means albino nigger :lol:


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Re: "Nigger" [Re: quiver]
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this is great:

http://ebaumsworld.com/2006/11/seinfeld-recut.html


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Re: "Nigger" [Re: gluke bastid]
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gluke bastid said:
RoosterCogburn said:
Ponder this...

EVERYONE who has come to America, by choice or by slave trade, has been dealing with the inherent racism of humanity. Humans generally do not like new and different people, and they usually make some kind of name to "label" them.


If you're going to bring the history of the United States into this, you can't just casually ignore the fact that the term nigger doesn't just mean "black person." The term nigger was used for generations in the post-Reconstruction South to remind black people of their place at the bottom of the hierarchy.


Well, no, it rather predates the Civil War. The etymology is as follows; Negro, nigra, nigger. There was no reminder issue involved in the specific word "nigger" any more than in the specific word "negro" or, eventually, "colored". Sorry, this is just nonsense.
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The use of the word nigger as a tool went hand in hand with the terrorist tactics of the Klu Klux Klan and was designed to strike a specific fear of violent rebuke into the heart of oppressed recently freed black populations. Such as "a nigger has no place in a voting booth."


It never was a tool, it was just the word used, until the last half century or so, when it took on a derogatory connotation above and beyond the normal discriminatory aspect, as in discriminating black from white or apple from orange. "A negro has no place in the voting booth" was probably more common.
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You're half-assed attempt at a history lesson of racial labelling in America is idiotic.


Your quarter-assed attempt at a linguistic lesson is far more creative. As in complete nonsense
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It doesn't get more pejorative than the word "nigger"


Who gives a fuck? Anyway, this is utter bilge as well. Although Negroes all over this country affectionately refer to each other as "nigger" I don't think the same could be said of the word "cunt" and its use among women. You quite clearly have absolutely zero idea of what you are talking about.
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WOPs, kykes, beaners, spics, micks, chinks... and niggers.


You're telling me these terms aren't offensive? That I could walk up to a Puerto Rican gang and call them all Spics without getting my ass rightfully stomped into the pavement? Or that I could walk around the Upper West Side shouting about Kykes without getting a bagel thrown at me? Did I miss something? When did these terms become unoffensive?

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It seems as though everyone but the niggers got over the use of words, went to work, and made lives for themselves. It's been over 150 years and some black people still don't get it.


The thing I love about bigots is that it never takes them very long to reveal what they really think. At first we were arguing about whether or not the term nigger is offensive. Now all of a sudden we've made a quantum leap into prejudice land. I won't bother pointing out that You are blaming race for the poverty of Blacks and assuming that they do the same. I won't bother pointing out that plenty of black people have jobs and have made lives for themselves. I bet the men at the Michael Richards show had jobs. I won't bother pointing out that a lot of white people don't work and are total failures/losers. The brainwashing administered by your Dad and/or John Wayne movies has blinded you to your surroundings. But I will point out something obvious. Whether or not it's appropriate to call black people niggers has NOTHING to do with YOUR belief that its time for them to "get it" and "make lives for themselves."

Come to think of it, what the hell do you mean by that anyway? Could you define "getting it" and "making lives for themselves" for clarity of argument?


I think the point he is trying to make is that instead of this making headlines it is just bullshit and should get the attention it deserves. Which is just about none. Some no talent mouthbreathing moron having a "nigger nigger nigger" rant in a comedy club. This is not a federal case. The niggers need to get over it. Capisce? Yet?
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When the word no longer offends the race, people stop using it... It loses it's power and fades away becoming a simple punchline, or a quickie racial slur no one takes seriously.


Hmmm. So it's their fault. I suppose we could extend that to other offensive acts. If America weren't so offended by 9/11, Al Qaeda would lose its power and fade away...


This is almost criminally stupid. 3,000 people weren't "offended" by al Qaeda. Are you honestly equating MR's calling somebody a nigger with murder? If you are offended by a word it IS your fault. The word only has exactly as much power as you grant it. You can call me any name you wish. I don't give a fuck. I'm not that stupid. I do, however, give a fuck if you shoot at me. Is this too difficult a distinction for your tender ears to hear or your precious eyes to behold. Call me an asshole? Yeah big deal, genius, is that all you got? Shoot at me? Now you've got my attention. Only a flagrant retard would even attempt to equate the two.
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Christians hate when people use GOD DAMN, but Christian rappers DO NOT use it!!!


That's why no one takes christian rap seriously.


Anybody who takes any bleatings of any musician seriously is a child.

In regard to this whole non-issue, if I want to call a nigger a nigger I will. If I want to call a cunt a cunt I will. If I want to call a sand nigger a sand nigger I will. If I want to call a spic a spic I will. If I want to call a guinea a guinea I will. If I want to call a polack a polack I will. And not one of them has the right to sue me or punch me. They can call me all kinds of names back and they can ostracise me and maybe even get me fired, but they can't sue me or hit me or prosecute me


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Re: "Nigger" [Re: quiver]
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quiver said:
they only use it to antagonize other people specificly us whites imo,
kinda like setting a trap for the innocent,they soften its meaning then pounce when someone they dont like uses it,specifically us whites


This sort of statement is exactly what is wrong with this thread. It's just bullshit, and it's also bullshit that no one else in PA&L is able to see that its bullshit.

It's all about you. You think you are such a victim. You think black people call each other nigga to antagonize you. You think they use that word on street corners when no white people are around to "set a trap for the innocent." Are you kidding me? That is a conspiracy theory. Watch the Michael Richards clip one more time. You can see the hatred. He was talking about lynching those two guys. Then they come out and demand an apology from him, and YOU feel victimized. You feel victimized because a couple of black guys stand up for themselves. You can't stand to see that, can you?

Any of you. Why is everyone in this thread so threatened that those guys were offended? You're giving them more shit for giving Michael Richards shit than you are giving Michael Richards for attacking them. Yeah, sure you can say nigger. Did I ever contest that? You are perfectly free to alienate yourself from the black community. But you can't have your cake and eat it too. I'm sorry. You can't go around hating black people and expect them to love you back. IF you are going to be a racist, then at least have some fucking balls about it and stop whining when people complain about racism.


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