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 cbull
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 kewl contamanation stopper 
#629263 - 05/13/02 01:43 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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check this lil bad boy out havent had any trouble with this item.the white thing on top of the the plastic is a air filter. it makes the bin statcly charged to stick contaminats to the sids of the tote
its a air filter it will cover 1800 cubic feet per second 15x 15 square feet removes both mircon and sub-micron sized poulluants down too .001 microns. produces natural ionization level of more then 300,000 negative ions per c.c per sec. u put the nozzel through the plastic on the bin and rest the base of the filter on the plastic out side the bin and it makes the whole bin staticly charged to collect contam. contam stick to the side of the charged bin
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cbull
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 Re: kewl contamanation stopper [Re: cbull]
#629273 - 05/13/02 01:53 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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sorry mod this is in the wrong fourm i didnt relize i was in this one 9i posted it in the right form so if u want to take it out be my guest
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Re: kewl contamanation stopper [Re: cbull]
#629291 - 05/13/02 02:06 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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So... what is it and what does it do again?
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Re: kewl contamanation stopper
#629331 - 05/13/02 02:37 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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1800 cubic feet per second
if this is used for growing mushrooms, how do you expect to keep the humidity levels up?
Does this ionization process created O3 (ozone)? I know that ozone can damage living organisms... such as plants and animals (prolonged exposure) The question is whether or not it will damage the mycelia...
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Re: kewl contamanation stopper [Re: cbull]
#629727 - 05/13/02 09:20 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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where did u get it from and how much
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cbull
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so far so good not damaging any mycelium still spreading strong my humidity is fine as u can see in the pic it is stable at 99% humidity
ill keep ya updated on fruiting process on this tho but for now all looks well
P.S ohh by the way it has 2 setting wide and narrow with the nozzel bent like it is in the pic is a low setting dosent give u specs for it though
hey guys im reading the specs on the box im not getting numbers outta my head
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Anno
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Re: kewl contamanation stopper [Re: cbull]
#629744 - 05/13/02 09:39 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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>its a air filter it will cover 1800 cubic feet per second
1800 cubic feet per second ! ?
I don?t think so.
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Re: kewl contamanation stopper [Re: cbull]
#629824 - 05/14/02 01:01 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm still wondering what it even is? I can see its a filter of somekind but....???? Got any specs on it? Got a name for it:)
Lana
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Re: kewl contamanation stopper [Re: cbull]
#629858 - 05/14/02 02:10 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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It looks like a K & N Filter.. did you put an High Performance exhaust and a chip on it to?...
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Re: kewl contamanation stopper [Re: Lana]
#629882 - 05/14/02 02:48 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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 Re: kewl contamanation stopper [Re: cbull]
#629937 - 05/14/02 04:25 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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These work great. I've been using three of them for about ten years. If you use that "elbow pointer" it directs the ions to a specific area. Take it off, and it will do a medium room. High humidity will corrode the metal loops under the "elbow," but they continue to do their job....
Of course, this ionizer does not replace the elbow grease involved with a clean room and sterile technique... 
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 Re: kewl contamanation stopper [Re: cbull]
#629949 - 05/14/02 04:45 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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I just wrote a long post about these and my computer locked up on me...cliff note version-->neg ion emitter, pos ion receptor. Against plastic sheeting it may charge the sheet of plastic (= good thing).
Steve Peele has them for $40.00 at Florida Mycological Research Center(FMRC) 
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Re: kewl contamanation stopper [Re: johnwsmoke]
#630021 - 05/14/02 06:27 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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damn i got ripped of i got mine from eco envierment for about 80 buck
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Re: kewl contamanation stopper [Re: cbull]
#630499 - 05/14/02 12:32 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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A friend of mine was telling me that she's heard of people using ION generators in marijuana cultivation.??? Hmmm are the effects the same?
I quess the question is, does an ION generator effect the humidity of the grow chamber? And does it provide fresh air, or does it just clean the air inside of the chamber?
Lana
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 Re: kewl contamanation stopper [Re: cbull]
#630566 - 05/14/02 01:43 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's a neat item. I just wonder how safe having the contaminants so close to your shrooms is. I think if you have them stuck to one thing it's good though. That is, if they are stuck to something that will not be touched or disturbed in any way.
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cbull
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Re: kewl contamanation stopper [Re: Lana]
#630831 - 05/14/02 05:44 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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its fine in high humidity. and i think it cleans the air out sid the chamber and throws out freash clean air from the nozzel but i could be wrong i didnt take the fiter off to see whats behind it
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Re: kewl contamanation stopper [Re: cbull]
#630960 - 05/14/02 08:10 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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so what are a few cheap air ionizers that i should go look at before buying anything?
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Re: kewl contamanation stopper [Re: cbull]
#630965 - 05/14/02 08:16 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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The Florida Mycology Research Center (FMRC) was the first to research the use of the Dual Element Ion Generator for mushroom growing back in 1986. It works by sending out negative charged ions that attach to anything in the air....down to .001 micron. Then the base of the unit has a positive charge.....bam! Anything that has a negative charge is held like a magnet on the positive base.....And yes, it does handle 1,500 cubic feet of room.....I do think so, I do Know So. www.mushroomsfmrc.com no longer takes credit card orders for customer protection. It seems our government sometimes is looking too much. The units are $40.00 and both 220 and 110 volts are sold. This unit uses only 1 1/2 watts! Cost about $1.00 a year to run all the time. No better contaminant remover is available....not even HEPA Filters, .2 or .3 micron is about the best they can do. That's no where near the .001 micron you get with this system. There are no filters to ever buy. FMRC uses these units in it's lab and highly recommends using 2 of them. Place one somewhere in the room, and the other in your growing chamber. Whenever you open the door and enter the room, the one in the room gets anything you let in with you. If anything happens to get by the room ion, the one in the grow chamber zaps it. Can be ordered by sending payment ($40.00 for each one....FMRC never has any hidden charges. Prices listed are all you send.) made out to FMRC, POB 18105, Pensacola, FL 32523. For more information you can just simply call FMRC at 850.327.4378 THEY REALLY DO WORK FMRC deals in such high volumes, no one else can even come close to their price. Anyone want a free copy of our Journal "THE MUSHROOM CULTURE", The Journal Of Mushroom Cultivation (TMC)? We now offer an Email version that comes like email. Just ask us at FloridaMycology@cs.com say you want your free #54 "TMC" Electronica and it will be on its way. This Journal has been published since 1983 and holds a wealth of mushroom cultivation information. slp/fmrc
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Lana
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Re: kewl contamanation stopper [Re: cbull]
#631143 - 05/15/02 01:56 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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Can someone please explain the difference between an ION Generator and an Ozone Generator?
http://www.epa.gov/iaq/pubs/ozonegen.html
I would think that there is a difference between the two but, what do I know
Lana
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Re: kewl contamanation stopper [Re: Lana]
#631296 - 05/15/02 05:33 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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fmrc's post describes what an ion generator does very well. it like makes airborn particles "magnetic" which sticks the the positive "base" hence, no airborn contams, they are pulled out of the air, due to the negative/positive attraction.
the ozon generator actually produces ozone ( the same stuff that protects us from harmful solar waves ( lol and we are destroying dailey). i am not sure how this is considered to help with contams, but their was a big debate, about a year or two ago, as to how safe an ozone generator is, seems like it was destroying lab mice's lungs, leading to premature death. its been awhile since ive researched the ion generator, ( lol about 15 years actually), i was completely interested in it, after reading the brochure that the fmrc used to send snail mail. i didnt have internet at the time, and info was hard to come by....hmmm maybe i will have something to do in my spare time now.
i am pretty sure thats the comparison, please feel free to correct me, its been awhile
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