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Re: Pros and Cons for Marijuana [Re: it stars saddam]
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bring the motherfuckin drama

-tupac


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Re: Pros and Cons for Marijuana [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
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Hey lets call someone names and give them a bad rating because we can't handle a bit of pot.


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Re: Pros and Cons for Marijuana [Re: StroFun]
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Sounds like a good idea!


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Re: Pros and Cons for Marijuana [Re: sleepy]
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You need to read more philosophy then this.........
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It is believed that by the time Maharaj-ji was 17 years old He knew EVERYTHING. This is to be taken to mean a knowing that is actually incomprehensible to you and me.

(from a website you posted)

Dont be delusional, there are plenty of philosophers that can help you gain knowledge, dont just eat up everything you see with a giant spoon.

Dont waste your SHORT TIME HERE, because for all you know, THATS ALL YOU HAVE.


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Re: Pros and Cons for Marijuana [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Personally I dont get any negative effects from pot AT ALL.
I also workout everyday, take ginseng and other herb, meditate, and read.
I PERSONALLY think most "problems with cannabis" are bullshit, and exageration.

If I smoke to much, in a few seconds, and stand, I can get light headed , or if I ripp to hard while I am standing, the same thing can happen.
(but thats not a good thing to do anyway, with proper smoking tech, its no issue)

I honestly belive my cannabis use does more good for me then it could ever do harm.


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Re: Pros and Cons for Marijuana [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
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HELLA_TIGHT said:
Sounds like a good idea!


Ok so instead of throwing a temper tantrum why don't you try to disprove what i said. In the ridiculous rating you left me you were incinuating that fear of the unknown does not cause anxiety. do you have any facts to back that up or are you just going to keep calling me names and starting posts calling all you little friends to give me bad ratings?

I concede that maybe you get panic attacks when high but instead of blaming it on the pot why don't you tell us why pot gave you a panic attack?

I would also like to refute the pretentious hippy as i may be pretentious but am not a hippy. Also do you think that because a small number of people have panic attacks the plant should be illegal? You must be against an overwhelming number of prescription drugs that have side effects far worse than a panic attack...


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Re: Pros and Cons for Marijuana [Re: StroFun]
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I think the issue all started when you claimed that the anxiety attacks induced by weed were entirely social in origin. I can see how someone who deals a lot with panic attacks might take offense to your ridiculous claim (without a shred of evidence either) that weed does not inherently cause anxiety and elevated blood pressure in heavy doses. Of course this is in spite of medical evidence to the contrary.

I dunno anything about ratings or whatnot (is that the number of shrooms under an avatar I guess?), but if you claim that fear of the unknown is what causes anxiety and panic attacks, then the burden of proof is on you. Anyone who opposes what you say simply has to oppose it (burden of clash). Of course if you had provided some sort of evidence then Hella would have to as well to have any credibility.

Also, I can't imagine that Hella (though I don't know him/her at all) or anyone from this board would claim that weed should be illegal. Weed is essentially the poster-child for drugs that ought to be legal. Hard to claim shrooms or anything else should be legal if pot isn't.

btw - I'm pretty sure that the "pretentious hippy" comment was in regards to what I said about people reporting anxiety attacks in Amsterdam coffee shops, despite the legality of weed (which you claimed was based on fear of prosecution). I thought the idea was "those people reporting 'fake' panic attacks in Amsterdam are just being pretentious hippies" ... although I guess he could have meant you too. "Hippy" wasn't the worst part of that moniker though.


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Re: Pros and Cons for Marijuana [Re: SilentG]
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:popcorn:


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:heartpump:

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Re: Pros and Cons for Marijuana [Re: SilentG]
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SilentG said:
Also, I can't imagine that Hella (though I don't know him/her at all) or anyone from this board would claim that weed should be illegal.


I smoke weed everyday, I want it to be legal. He can't read or something. Probably because he's a pretentious hippie.


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Re: Pros and Cons for Marijuana [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
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Goddamn Whiskey Clone and Hella. Two avatars like that makes a nigga wanna fuck.

Guess I misinterpreted the pretentious hippy thing. That was my second guess though.


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Re: Pros and Cons for Marijuana [Re: SilentG]
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He's pretentious because he says if marijuana was legal there would be no anxiety associated with it.


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Re: Pros and Cons for Marijuana [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
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Anxeity is caused be sativa heavy strains, indica heavy strains usually wont have the same anxeity producing effect.

The illegality of cannabis DOES produce some anxeity, in certain situations, obviously.

But I dont think cannabis causes anxeity of any kind in most people, infact lots of people usse cannabis to deal with anxeity, and by that I mean both short term, as in life stresses, AND, the vague, and misunderstood pscyological term, often used today,that claims certain people dealing with anxeity all the time, weather its a small ammount thats always there, or something that comes out of the blue and strikes, or whatever.


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Re: Pros and Cons for Marijuana [Re: drugsaregoodmmk]
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pro's for me, lets me read , go to college, go to work , relax , helps me go to bed, helps me to wake up the next day and enjoy life for what it is...
con's
to much makes me lazy for the day- but nothing a good shower wont fix...


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Re: Pros and Cons for Marijuana [Re: superbob57]
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"but nothing a good shower wont fix..."
I agree. :smile:


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Re: Pros and Cons for Marijuana [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
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Psilocybeingzz said:
"but nothing a good shower wont fix..."
I agree. :smile:


yup

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Re: Pros and Cons for Marijuana [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
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Psilocybeingzz said:
Anxeity is caused be sativa heavy strains, indica heavy strains usually wont have the same anxeity producing effect.



brain chemestry, life experiences, personality are all causes of anxiety, pot
simply triggers the attacks with some people, think of all the people that have
anxiety attacks and dont smoke, cant blame it on sativa

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The illegality of cannabis DOES produce some anxeity, in certain situations, obviously.


like when you're in the back seat of the cop car and they just found a pound in
your trunk, with most it's an interaction with the THC and their brain chemestry
legality really has little bearing on anything other than paranoia


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infact lots of people usse cannabis to deal with anxeity



and some use a shotgun to deal with anxiety


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Re: Pros and Cons for Marijuana [Re: Prisoner#1]
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personally i'd say most people live in shitty situations that they are perhaps not aware of and marijuana enlarges their perception so that they see how fucked up everyone/everthing around them is, and this knowledge makes them anxious. simply being around anxious people can make you anxious. watching anxious people on tv can make you anxious. it happens more often to people on Weed because weed makes you more open to the universe, and at the moment your standing next to an anxious person and you are affected by it. there are 3 options, either learn how not to be negatively affected by others (hardest/best), surround yourself with calm people(next best/can really hurt), or stop smoking and forget the what they have seen (i'm not saying that weed gives you ultimate "truth", just that for those who get anxious, it gives them a different point of view). it's hard living with lunatics.

you may disagree... it comes down to the basic difference in view... do you think what you see on mushrooms is reality or illusion? personally, i do not discount a piece of knowledge because i thought of it when i was on mushrooms/ smoking.

this is from an interview with Bhagavan Das, he explains it well.

"I was at a party with Tim (leary) right after he got out of prison. I was with Allen Ginsberg. We had a lot of fun laughing. Very funny man, very charming. And later I think he just got more and more weird living in his own world. Tim lost it, I think. There were the people who tripped that would say, "Wow, I'm really on a drug trip." Then there were other people like Owsley, who knew that was the real reality. This was the trip. Tim was confused about that and was caught between worlds."
http://gettingit.com/article/707

find 100 people on mushrooms and 99 will be happy. take 100 people not on mushrooms and 1 will be happy. so if there is reality, who is closer? what are the chances that the unhappy people are living living in reality?

Edited by sleepy (10/03/06 11:44 PM)

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Re: Pros and Cons for Marijuana [Re: sleepy]
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sleepy said:
find 100 people on mushrooms and 99 will be happy. take 100 people not on mushrooms and 1 will be happy. so if there is reality, who is closer? what are the chances that the unhappy people are living living in reality?


What's with all the pretentious hippies flooding the pube?


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Re: Pros and Cons for Marijuana [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
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HELLA_TIGHT said:
weed makes dem blues go away.

but it makes my memory terrible!

so if I get high, I can't read or anything for a few hours afterwards.

I always could study and read better when I smoked weed, I felt more focused and relaxed, I could learn better without stress....I have great memory high on weed.  :confused:

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Re: Pros and Cons for Marijuana [Re: Skunk420]
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Weeds affects on one def. depends on the strain of weed

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