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Re: The Jesus Prayer [Re: leery11]
    #5710769 - 06/04/06 11:27 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

The desire to 'get high' comes with a youthful introduction to altered states. Buddhist psychology speaks of the 'desire' for bliss, but this 'desire' needs to be relinquished. First of all, it is a desire-based motivation of the ego. So long as the ego wants to bliss out and feel good, it is just a more subtle manifestation of egocentricity - "blissful sexless highs" - as poet Gary Snyder once called such.

Realization is a much more subtle affair. It is difficult to describe, it is not a superconscious hyperpranic inner state, for example. That would be the experience of 'OM' in which white light annihilates all discursive thought and memory in an eternal moment of infinite intensity. No, Realization embodies simplicity of thought/action. No multitasking. It is clarity and attentiveness to the here and now. It is fearlessness (of death), and therefore it is the 'peace that passes all understanding.' Realization is being simultaneously aware of space-time [existence] and eternity [essence]. THIS is the Gnostic's understanding about the doctrine of Jesus Christ - 'fully God, fully man,' which the Literalist attributes ONLY to Jesus, making Jesus Christ different from the rest of humanity by 'specie,' not by 'degree.' Jesus Christ is, as Grace Slick once sang, "...anyman's story...." There was a time when I found this to be heretical...when I was indoctrinated by mainstream Christian thought...when I was unaware of the negative consequences of placing Jesus on a mythological pedestal, effectively removing any helpfulness in so doing.

The Biblical Jesus (historical, mythical, or mythically enhanced historical) KNEW God. THAT is what Christ [Consciousness] IS. It is the Reality in which Knower, Knowledge and Known - are ONE.

Peace be with you on your quest.
-MtG


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself


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Re: The Jesus Prayer [Re: leery11]
    #5970293 - 08/16/06 06:01 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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the issue of repetition is interesting.

I repeated Yahweh while going to sleep and a woman yelled at me "shut up" (in my mind, hallucinatory) I considered continuing out of spite but wondered if perhaps it was a message from God....... or from someone distracting me from God?

All I know is sure you can pray just once..... and you're still right back where you came from. But to be in a meditative state while praying so you can COMMUNE with God.... that is the best way to pray.

and so it seems that one way to have acess to such states would be through repetition.

I mean I've sured prayed Jesus save me, transform me into your consciousness now and then.... but it hasn't really happened, or if so, imperceivably gradual [well not so, i mean i have noticed some changes but they are also from using Buddhist mantras too].. but what if you carried that prayer into a deep meditation, keeping it constantly in your mind, so that you could connect to Jesus?

Is that vain repetition? It may be. But the pressing question is... how does one pray in order to reap results and connect to that which they are praying to? The Bible is full of passages denoting going within to find the Kingdom...... especially the Gospel of Thomas....

curious things.

my observation from that night is that Yahweh resonates from the solar plexus to the throat down to the heart and provides a sense of balance and flows fluidly if resonated aloud.

I am not sure that that is what you are supposed to do with the name but I also know that if Yahweh is up there he understands and would teach me the proper way. I'm trying I just don't know what I'm trying... so whatever I'm trying is going to have to be patient while I am trying to access it.

or who knows anything. just be a good person in the mean time.




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