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distgre1
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Marijuana hallucinogenic?
#5909288 - 07/28/06 03:26 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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"Cannabis is a depressant drug with hallucinogenic properties. Higher concentrations of THC increase the hallucinogenic effects"
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Ive never seen shit, and ive smoked a ton, and so have a lot of people... I also read similar things like this on other sites... whats this about? thanks
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NobodyCares
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Re: Marijuana hallucinogenic? [Re: distgre1]
#5909318 - 07/28/06 03:32 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you wanna hallucinate off weed you need to go ahead and buy some hash and just eat it. Or you could not waste your money and just buy some cid/mushrooms.
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Re: Marijuana hallucinogenic? [Re: distgre1]
#5909321 - 07/28/06 03:33 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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For something to be hallucinogenic it doesn't have to make you see 'things'.
Sometimes when i'm stoned all the sentences/lines on my monitor bend and warp for a second in the side of my vision. That's cannabis's hallucinogenic effects, for me anyway.
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Re: Marijuana hallucinogenic? [Re: NobodyCares]
#5909322 - 07/28/06 03:33 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I dont, i just find it weird... Ive smoked so many times, and never felt as if i saw anything..
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Re: Marijuana hallucinogenic? [Re: distgre1]
#5909330 - 07/28/06 03:34 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Short Answer:
Fuck yeah it is.
I find it isn't when you're smoking it but it is when you're eating it. It is definitely like a weak mushie trip when eaten.
Long Answer:
Aside from that, the chemists categorize drugs in a broader spectrum than we do.
For example, when the average person thinks of hallucinogenics, we think of shrooms/LSD/Peyote etc etc. Substances that cause a significant change in the perception of reality.
However, in reality, that's a bad name for them as they do not cause hallucinations. Hallucinations are when you cannot distinguish reality from your perception on a substance: I.E. Delriants such as Nightshade/Datura.
These are psychedelics.
In terms of weed, it is deemed an hallucinogen because it yields a hallucinogenic effects, most notably auditory instead of visual (it makes music seem wider--not as much so with shrooms).
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It's also classified as a stimulant as well.
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Re: Marijuana hallucinogenic? [Re: EarthDroid]
#5909696 - 07/28/06 06:05 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Marijuana hallucinogenic? [Re: distgre1]
#5909712 - 07/28/06 06:11 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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The way a good sativa strain affects me is nothing short of psychedelic.
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Re: Marijuana hallucinogenic? [Re: Nashbar]
#5909717 - 07/28/06 06:14 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nashbar said:
heh, that's pretty cool. Thanks for sharing
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Re: Marijuana hallucinogenic? [Re: Mike_yy]
#5909718 - 07/28/06 06:15 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Marijuana hallucinogenic? [Re: Mike_yy]
#5909719 - 07/28/06 06:15 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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i've gotten fairly strong visuals off weed.
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Re: Marijuana hallucinogenic? [Re: distgre1]
#5909747 - 07/28/06 06:28 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've only really smoked it once and that one time it was supposed to be good shit (I have no idea, I don't like to smoke, it fucks my breathing up usually).. but that one time I was knocked on my ass and had a lot of aural hallucinations. Lots of weird staging, phasing etc. I couldn't really tell where sound was really coming from. As for eating it, the one time I did.. I just fell asleep soon after (granted it was 3am or so that I ate it)
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Re: Marijuana hallucinogenic? [Re: unbeliever]
#5909754 - 07/28/06 06:35 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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unbeliever said: As for eating it, the one time I did.. I just fell asleep soon after
Thats happened to me afew times.
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Re: Marijuana hallucinogenic? [Re: distgre1]
#5909792 - 07/28/06 07:03 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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distgre1 said: "Cannabis is a depressant drug with hallucinogenic properties. Higher concentrations of THC increase the hallucinogenic effects"
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Ive never seen shit, and ive smoked a ton, and so have a lot of people... I also read similar things like this on other sites... whats this about? thanks
You aren't smoking good marijuana. With some good sativa or hash, sure light visuals happen, things can get trippy, music can sound a lot better and.. well.. don't things taste a helluva lot better? 
Yell at your dealer to start growing better strains or grow better in general.
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Re: Marijuana hallucinogenic? [Re: Nashbar]
#5909848 - 07/28/06 07:40 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nashbar said:
That's a really amazing graphic! I assume that the substances are organized by class, very roughly, which is organized by similarity of structure and\or activity? Interesting too how it bubbles out and that there's room left over where salvinorin A and the like are grouped, for new classes and new activity. Can their structures and\or activities be anticipated by their location and what we know? One could also somehow organize a mapping of the brain by activity sites or something about which areas of the brain are affected. Starting to see where studying drugs can be useful, particularly certain kinds of drugs?
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Re: Marijuana hallucinogenic? [Re: distgre1]
#5909856 - 07/28/06 07:44 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Cannabis is definately 'hallucinogenic' to me, whatever that means. Audio distortions and musings are common. I hear symphonies, literally (well, theres no vibration, so its more like actively remembering it), as I fall asleep at times. You can also get into textures and patterning, but you have to learn how to focus it. A certain focus and breathing and you can make the patterns and intensity grow. But its also a simple matter to disregard and ignore.
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Re: Marijuana hallucinogenic? [Re: distgre1]
#5909874 - 07/28/06 07:52 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've hallucinated a couple times off of weed. But I think marijuana is more "hallucinogenic" in terms of the head trip, rather than in terms of visuals. But usually when I smoke it, it just feels like a depressant.
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Re: Marijuana hallucinogenic? [Re: truekimbo2]
#5909951 - 07/28/06 08:17 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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truekimbo2 said: i've gotten fairly strong visuals off weed.
I've never really gotten strong visuals personally, but I've gotten patterning in a dark setting... In fact, last night I was at a friends place and we smoked a few bowls... It was the first time in the past year or two that I've had any visual activity from it...
either way, definitely has some psychedelic properties..
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I use to see dragons off of BC bubblegum (cev's), trippiest pot I've ever smoked.
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Re: Marijuana hallucinogenic? [Re: distgre1]
#5909964 - 07/28/06 08:21 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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It depends on the individual, like all drugs. I smoke a lot and don't get strong effects, if my GF has half a spliff she'll have a panic attack and think she's dying.
Most people get good visuals and almost no mind trip from 2CI, I get the complete opposite.
It's all about the individual interaction with the drug, there are no hard and fast rules that dictate effects.
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