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2 Different Shrooms. Pics. Maybe cubes
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Pictures of the same looking shrooms #1:
http://uploadisland.net/531/shroom1/531%20002.jpg
http://uploadisland.net/531/shroom1/531%20003.jpg
http://uploadisland.net/531/shroom1/531%20005.jpg
http://uploadisland.net/531/shroom1/531%20006.jpg
They were growing in/near horse shit (some were in the shit, some were in the grass surrounding it).
I dont think i need a size description, you can tell from the pics. The gills on these guys, as you can see in the pics are light brown. As far as bruising, they bruised a dark brown/black color.
stem: seems to be more solid

Pictures of the same looking shrooms #2:
http://uploadisland.net/531/shroom2/531%20009.jpg
http://uploadisland.net/531/shroom2/531%20010.jpg
http://uploadisland.net/531/shroom2/531%20011.jpg
http://uploadisland.net/531/shroom2/531%20012.jpg
growing in the same location as previous shrooms. the gills are black.
stem: seems to be more hollow

I am doing a sporeprint for all of them right now, ill post back tomorrow morning.


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Edited by p0ng (05/30/06 11:18 PM)

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Re: 2 Different Shrooms. Pics. Maybe cubes *DELETED* [Re: p0ng]
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Reason for deletion: bad id



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Edited by ihaveacow (05/30/06 10:55 PM)

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Re: 2 Different Shrooms. Pics. Maybe cubes [Re: ihaveacow]
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stumped really


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Edited by ihaveacow (05/30/06 10:57 PM)

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Re: 2 Different Shrooms. Pics. Maybe cubes [Re: ihaveacow]
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I don't think that first set are cubes. As for the second set, you've got a mixed bag of Panaoleus. The first pic in that set looks a lot like pan subbs.

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Re: 2 Different Shrooms. Pics. Maybe cubes [Re: ihaveacow]
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they dont look like cubes. they dont bruise blue, some were growing out of grass (not saying its not possible), and its just wrong, the gills are wrong.

shrooms #2 is two different mushrooms, the first pic appears to be a panaeolus subbalteatus, get a print on that!

the rest are inactive. pan foenisecii, maybe a conocybe in there.
wait for some more opinions, but thats ::adam1975::

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Re: 2 Different Shrooms. Pics. Maybe cubes [Re: p0ng]
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None of them appear to be active.

A shot in the dark with the first ones would be Agrocybes. I really have no clue without a print.

The second ones, you have a mixed collection. The first one might be something, the rest are inactive Panaeolus.

Nothing to get excited over  :crazy:

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Re: 2 Different Shrooms. Pics. Maybe cubes [Re: Gumby]
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what i mean by "some were growing in shit, some were growing in grass" is that this patch is one huge pile of shit that is spread out over about 10 square feet. some of the shrooms are in the shit with nothing surrounding it. some of the shrooms are nestled in with a clump or grass or weeds that are growing in the shit.


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Re: 2 Different Shrooms. Pics. Maybe cubes [Re: Gumby]
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There are known as wannabees. Basically they are a cubensis except they are not active. You will need to take a spore print and grow them with a simple PF Tek grow thing in order to yield them active...

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Re: 2 Different Shrooms. Pics. Maybe cubes [Re: DaveTX]
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how will growing nonactive spores produce active mushrooms? anyways, forget that question, it is off topic. ID Please. :-)


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Re: 2 Different Shrooms. Pics. Maybe cubes [Re: DaveTX]
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Your top shrooms are Agrocybe praecox and were growing in grass and have what they call a dark brown to nicotine or cigar brown sporE print

the next group grow with manure present and are Panaeolus retirugis with a black spores......weakly active to not at all.......thats just the ones I can see...

Hey Pong didnt you have some Retirugis on a different thread and did you ever try them before ?


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Re: 2 Different Shrooms. Pics. Maybe cubes [Re: shroominDole]
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I did have another thread, dont recall that name and never tried them


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Re: 2 Different Shrooms. Pics. Maybe cubes [Re: shroominDole]
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Well, in Washington state I had found mushrooms that looked identical to those ones. The caps were golden, the stems hallow, the spores purple, looked identical to a cubensis. The only difference was that they did not bruise blue. I then took and grew there spores with a PF Tek, and thats when they suddenly bruised blue.

I'm just saying that this is a positive technique to identifying cubensis.

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Re: 2 Different Shrooms. Pics. Maybe cubes [Re: DaveTX]
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the stems to the golden caps are no hollow, they are solid


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Re: 2 Different Shrooms. Pics. Maybe cubes [Re: p0ng]
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p0ng said:
growing in the same location as previous shrooms. the gills are black.
stem: seems to be more hollow



Dude! in English they have to both be hallow for one to be more hallow!

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Re: 2 Different Shrooms. Pics. Maybe cubes [Re: p0ng]
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I agree the top one's are Agrocybe. I see a mixed collection and panaeolus in the bottom set of photos. shroominDole sees P. retirugis frequently, when the rest of us see inactive Pans.


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DaveTX said:
There are known as wannabees. Basically they are a cubensis except they are not active. You will need to take a spore print and grow them with a simple PF Tek grow thing in order to yield them active...



This is ridiculous.

Quote:
Well, in Washington state I had found mushrooms that looked identical to those ones. The caps were golden, the stems hallow, the spores purple, looked identical to a cubensis. The only difference was that they did not bruise blue. I then took and grew there spores with a PF Tek, and thats when they suddenly bruised blue.


This is impossible.

I'm throwing my bullshit flag.  :glittershitz: :psycow:

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Re: 2 Different Shrooms. Pics. Maybe cubes [Re: shroomydan]
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Maybe you should let the others speak for themselves......shroomydan said: "when the rest of US see inactive Pans." (us and him)....that they disagree with my identification as you are the one only one after my ID to cast any doubt upon my ID of this mushroom thus far.....

and to your claim that they're inactive Pans.....

wouldn't YOU have to know which Panaeolus they are to KNOW they're inactive ????????????

inactive is not a species

I'll wait for your Positive ID on these shrooms or your comments as how most of these are all Panaeolus foenisecii before I respond first.......more than willing to discuss


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shroominDole sees P. retirugis frequently, when the rest of us see inactive Pans.


Panaeolus retirugis is by far one of the most common and widespread mushrooms occuring associated with dung...

how is it that YOU have failed to "see frequently" or even so much as utter the word "RETIRUGIS" on these boards in all these years except 2 times and only in last couple weeks in response to my IDs on this mushroom ?

and you more than have the ability with the reply function to point out where Ive misidentified these Pans for others instead of casting shadows

Edited by shroominDole (05/31/06 07:40 PM)

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Re: 2 Different Shrooms. Pics. Maybe cubes [Re: DaveTX]
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DaveTX said:
Well, in Washington state I had found mushrooms that looked identical to those ones. The caps were golden, the stems hallow, the spores purple, looked identical to a cubensis. The only difference was that they did not bruise blue. I then took and grew there spores with a PF Tek, and thats when they suddenly bruised blue.

I'm just saying that this is a positive technique to identifying cubensis.


LMFAOROTFF!


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Re: 2 Different Shrooms. Pics. Maybe cubes [Re: YESSUP]
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I don't want to contribute to DaveTX bashing for the sake of it, but in cases like this where what he says is just sooo wrong, it's hard to stay quiet. You are talking about the transmogrification of mushrooms, mushroom alchemy, somehow creating new species out of thin air like people used to think happened all the time until Darwin set them straight.

This is pure nonsense and these kind of posts do nothing but confuse first time readers who have less knowledge. Shame on dave

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Re: 2 Different Shrooms. Pics. Maybe cubes [Re: xmush]
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Just so you guys know, DaveTx has been temporarily banned and warned. Sorry to get off-topic, lots of people have contacted me about him.


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Re: 2 Different Shrooms. Pics. Maybe cubes [Re: shroominDole]
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You tell me why you so frequently see Panaeolus retirugis. You are the one presenting yourself as the expert, always so confident in you IDs.

What are your credentials?

How is it that you can be so certain when I am not? Please give me detail? How do you know his mushrooms are not Panaeolus campanulatus, or Panaeolus sphinctrinus? What criteria are you using to be so sure of a Panaeolus retirugis ID. I have seen you give this ID for blurry pictures of pins!

If you are so sure tell me why. Perhaps I will learn something.

Certainly, lets have a discussion. I think it's about time. You act like an expert on mushrooms from every part of the globe. If you truly are an expert, then we need to know so that we can add you to the list of trusted identifiers. But for now, you are a faceless name on the computer screen who seems to be giving questionable IDs. The ball is in your court dude.

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