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Re: I have decided [Re: Ravus]
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"It's not the religion it's the religious. The religious are the taint of religion." - Cowgold

Study more than one religion and you'll see lots of similarities/thread stitching it all together. There are many lessons in religion.


God - is whatever you choose to fulfil your life. It is your path.

God = car
God = money
God = power
God = whatever

just be comfortable with your god and don't hog the couch...

Edited by Cowgold (08/26/05 01:46 AM)

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Re: I have decided [Re: lowdominion]
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lowdominion said:
instead of beliefs i have ideas. Ideas can be changed easily when a better idea comes along and this allows your minds to remain flexible beliefs on the other hand are rigid unflexible and usually come with unhealthy dogmas.



Got it, I was thinking the more broad, technical definition of a belief.

lowdominion said:
As far as your religion comment goes I think people use them too much as a crutch i've seen people stand there and pray and bemoan their various gods about their problems rather than look at them logically and use their own two legs to fix it. Drugs can be used to face your hardships too it doesn't make it a good idea though



A person using drugs to escape his problems is not the same as one who's fiath in God helps them deal with life.

There are many people, religous or not, who sit around feeling sorry for themselves, wishing that things would change without the balls to do anything about it. Although religion certanly doesnt prevent this attitue, I do not agree that it enourages the attitude either. For many people, their faith in god is the very thing that allows them to get up every morning and stay on the grind.

I cant think of any relegion that says "Pray to god, and He is gonna solve all of your problems for you".

I personally am not relegious. However, I see relegion as a tool some people use to see the world. I, like I gather you do, belive that it is too limiting, and can prevent somone from seeing the entirety of a situation. But being religous and being in denail are not the same thing.

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Re: I have decided [Re: Jadian]
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Jadian said:
You have to understand the other point of view sometimes. Most of these people were born and raised to KNOW that god is this and that and that's just how the world is. It's like if someone told you that the sun isn't real. You KNOW the sun is real, so you'd argue. Most of them see God in the same way.




yea but I can look up and see the sun, i see all the light it brings, i feel the heat from it, i see the darkness that comes when it leaves and feel the weather get cooler when it is gone. From this i can conclude that the sun is real.

What religious people KNOW about God is only from what they read in books, which have absolutely zero way of being tested or examined or anything. To me it seems like saying there is an evil leprechaun next to me, but he cant be seen or heard or touched, but you have to believe in him or he will kill you. I mean i think that there is way more than what our little brains can see hear touch etc, but religion seems to be just complete blind following in a story that unlike the sun, cant be verified or even examined in any way.


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"Limitless undying love which shines around me like a million suns - it calls me on and on across the universe" ~ John Lennon

"Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right" ~The Grateful Dead

"Religionists, with their guaranteed eventual paradise, of which they know nothing, taking it all on 'faith,' can't be expected to understand or sympathize with those with a yen to storm the Gate of Heaven and see for themselves what all the praying's about!" ~Robert Hunter

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Re: I have decided [Re: Cowgold]
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Cowgold said:
"It's not the religion it's the religious. The religious are the taint of religion." - Cowgold

Study more than one religion and you'll see lots of similarities/thread stitching it all together. There are many lessons in religion.


God - is whatever you choose to fulfil your life. It is your path.

God = car
God = money
God = power
God = whatever

just be comfortable with your god and don't hog the couch...



So in other words, God is simply an empty term created by primates that holds no definition?

The reason the religions have similarities is because apes all have similar brains with similar areas. It's much simpler scientifically to realize the brain is the unifying factor in these bullshit religions, not God.


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So long as you are praised think only that you are not yet on your own path but on that of another.

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Re: I have decided [Re: Ravus]
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God - is whatever you choose to fulfil your life. It is your path.

it's as empty as you want it to be.

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Re: I have decided [Re: Help on the Way]
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Slipknot420 said:
that all religion is total bullshit that perpetuates ignorance, a good majority of religious people are blind followers, and that 99% of this planet is completely insane.

Aaaaaaaaa i cant take it!!!!! seriously what the fuck is wrong with everybody on this planet?!?!?



how insightful... Did you come up with this yourself? The governor of the great state of Minnesota said that same thing a couple years ago. I'm sure if you did a little reading, you could find plenty more references.

edit: ex-governor, ex-professional wrestler, ex-XFL commentator... take a look at his recent pictures and think if you want to agree with him

Edited by Nashbar (08/26/05 04:07 PM)

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Re: I have decided [Re: Nashbar]
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dude i dont know wtf you are talking about

nor who, since you didnt leave a name and i dont live in minnesota

and a picture of some crazy looking guy isn't going to suddenly make me embrace religion

wtf


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:shocked: *Divine Moments of Truth* :shocked:


"Limitless undying love which shines around me like a million suns - it calls me on and on across the universe" ~ John Lennon

"Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right" ~The Grateful Dead

"Religionists, with their guaranteed eventual paradise, of which they know nothing, taking it all on 'faith,' can't be expected to understand or sympathize with those with a yen to storm the Gate of Heaven and see for themselves what all the praying's about!" ~Robert Hunter

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Re: I have decided [Re: Help on the Way]
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search and ye shall find... how many: edit: ex-(Minnesota) governors, ex-professional wrestlers, ex-XFL commentators are there?

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Re: I have decided [Re: Nashbar]
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whoa i didnt know ventura was governer...thats kinda messed up

anyway...yea that doesnt affect how i feel at all

Edit: althoguh i feel kinda bad for minnesota right now


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:shocked: *Divine Moments of Truth* :shocked:


"Limitless undying love which shines around me like a million suns - it calls me on and on across the universe" ~ John Lennon

"Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right" ~The Grateful Dead

"Religionists, with their guaranteed eventual paradise, of which they know nothing, taking it all on 'faith,' can't be expected to understand or sympathize with those with a yen to storm the Gate of Heaven and see for themselves what all the praying's about!" ~Robert Hunter

Edited by Slipknot420 (08/26/05 06:09 PM)

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Re: I have decided [Re: Nashbar]
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it's actually just kind of entertainning pictures from his wrestlings days to his political days to his psycho days...

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Re: I have decided [Re: Nashbar]
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search "weakminded" and "organized religion"

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Re: I have decided [Re: Nashbar]
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What's your point? I don't know who you're talking about either since I couldn't name one Minnesota governor, but it doesn't matter who espouses a logical idea; the ideas stand alone to be criticized, unless they are inseparable from the people, such as Christianity with the Galilean peasant.


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So long as you are praised think only that you are not yet on your own path but on that of another.

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Re: I have decided [Re: Nashbar]
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haha i thought all his days were his psycho days...


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:shocked: *Divine Moments of Truth* :shocked:


"Limitless undying love which shines around me like a million suns - it calls me on and on across the universe" ~ John Lennon

"Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right" ~The Grateful Dead

"Religionists, with their guaranteed eventual paradise, of which they know nothing, taking it all on 'faith,' can't be expected to understand or sympathize with those with a yen to storm the Gate of Heaven and see for themselves what all the praying's about!" ~Robert Hunter

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Re: I have decided [Re: faslimy]
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faslimy said:
go easy on us, we only use 1% of our brain



false


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Re: I have decided [Re: Ravus]
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Nashbar said:
Did you come up with this yourself?



Ravus said:
What's your point?



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Re: I have decided [Re: Silversoul]
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People still believe that myth?

I thought it arose because it was observed that glia outnumber neurons by so much, and since people at first just thought the neurons were significant developed that 10% number (though glia actually outnumber neurons by 50 to 1 we've now discovered, so if it was true it'd be more near 2%).

Though it isn't; glia are essential to brain functions, and that "10%" number is bullshit. Natural selection wouldn't develop us to put so much energy into maintaining the brain and then only using 10% of it; if people understood Darwinism better they would question their myths more.


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So long as you are praised think only that you are not yet on your own path but on that of another.

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Re: I have decided [Re: Nashbar]
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Quote:
how insightful... Did you come up with this yourself? The governor of the great state of Minnesota said that same thing a couple years ago. I'm sure if you did a little reading, you could find plenty more references.



Again... what's your point? Who cares what some Minnesota governor said? A lot of people are opening their eyes nowadays, even politicians and ex-wrestlers.


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Re: I have decided [Re: Silversoul]
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none of the examples in that article are thorough or conclusive, it is basing its debunking on a few instances where someone with no actual evidence claimed we use 10% and everyone believed it.

both arguments that we use all of our brain and 10% of our brain are not convincing in the slightest

the full potential of the brain cannot be determined simply by a PE scan or a fMRI scan to measure which parts of the brain are stimulated. No way can that evidence be used to conclude that

"Over the course of a whole day, however, just about all of the brain is used at one time or another."

I'm sure Benjamin Radford feels high and mighty for debunking that one...

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Re: I have decided [Re: Ravus]
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Nashbar said:
Quote:
I'm sure if you did a little reading, you could find plenty more references.



Ravus said:
Quote:
A lot of people are opening their eyes nowadays, even politicians and ex-wrestlers.



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Re: I have decided [Re: Nashbar]
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Jesse Ventura also believes in gravity. Should i disagree with him on that too based on pictures of him?


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:shocked: *Divine Moments of Truth* :shocked:


"Limitless undying love which shines around me like a million suns - it calls me on and on across the universe" ~ John Lennon

"Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right" ~The Grateful Dead

"Religionists, with their guaranteed eventual paradise, of which they know nothing, taking it all on 'faith,' can't be expected to understand or sympathize with those with a yen to storm the Gate of Heaven and see for themselves what all the praying's about!" ~Robert Hunter

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