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Phalaris Aquatica
    #457315 - 11/13/01 06:53 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Hey Lizard King or whoever can answer this:

How hard is it to grow P. Aquatica indoors w/ 1000 watt MH lights?

Can it be done?

Also can Phalaris Arunduncea (reed canary) grass be grown indoors as well

any input would be greatly apreciated

Thanks


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Re: Phalaris Aquatica [Re: sill_o_cin]
    #457721 - 11/14/01 02:25 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Hi,

I haven't grown P. aquatica but Phalaris tuberosa & arundinacea indoors. They didn't need 1000 W light. Actually a 15 W Grow lux light was enough... The only big problem of growing them indoors is the lack of wind. This lack makes them grow very thin and long, having problems to be erect, and not strong like in the outside ones.
I asume that aquatica should also work. Probably four or five 15 W lights would works perfect and would be much easier to install than a 1000 W lamp, which needs extra aeration because of the huge amount of heat emited.

I hope this answered your question,

Elektrolurch (Electrolagartija)


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Re: Phalaris Aquatica [Re: Elektrolurch]
    #458170 - 11/14/01 01:53 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

to help with weak stems, shake the stems every day. it helps the plant this its the wind and build a stronger stem...


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Re: Phalaris Aquatica [Re: Elektrolurch]
    #458362 - 11/14/01 04:58 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks for the insight.

what is the duration of growth from seed to finish?

Can a fan work for the wind?

Also if I try P. arundancea indoors will it be worth the effort?

I mean can a substantial amount of dmt be extracted, and how much dried material will I need for a succesful extraction.

Has anybody been able to purify this extract to leave straight N,N-DMT?

Thanks again for the help


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Re: Phalaris Aquatica [Re: sill_o_cin]
    #467251 - 11/23/01 02:30 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

>"what is the duration of growth from seed to finish?"

It depends on what you mean with "finish". It grows fast, in 3 month you get a strong plant out of seed.

>"Can a fan work for the wind?"

A fan is as good as wind.


>"Also if I try P. arundancea indoors will it be worth the effort? I mean can a substantial amount of dmt be extracted, and how much dried material will I need for a succesful extraction. "

If you ask me, they aren't worth as an extraction material, wether arundinacea or tuberosa or aquatica! You get huge amounts of material, due to the low density of grass, and have to use therefore also huge amounts of solvent. This huge amounts of solvent have then to be concentrated, this means you'll have to destill it in some way. The destillation may take hours and hours for say 10 litre of dichlormethane for 1 kg of grass to get 100 - 200 mg of DMT if you work good!

"Has anybody been able to purify this extract to leave straight N,N-DMT?"

This one is for every plant extraction tricky. For straight N,N-DMT you would have to use some sort of chromatography. There has been surely someone who did it, but not everyone has the skills and access to apparatus to make a chromatography.

If you are just interested in extracting DMT, and not in the plant itself being beautiful, I would recommend you to buy M. hostilis root bark, and your extraction will be much more rewarding and probably also much cheaper in the end.

Elektrolurch


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And fairy stories held me high on
Clouds of sunlight floating by.", Pink Floyd '67


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