Home | Community | Message Board


Mycotrop.com
Please support our sponsors.

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics >> The Ethnobotanical Garden

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Kraken Kratom Kratom Capsules for Sale, Red Vein Kratom   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Bridgetown Botanicals CBD Capsules   Original Sensible Seeds Autoflowering Cannabis Seeds, Bulk Cannabis Seeds, Feminized Cannabis Seeds, High THC Strains, USA West Coast Strains   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   PhytoExtractum Kratom Powder for Sale   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Capsules, Kratom Powder For Sale   Amazon Ayahuasca, Syrian Rue

Jump to first unread post. Pages: 1 | 2 | Next >  [ show all ]
Offlinebrachystachys
Stranger
Registered: 09/07/07
Posts: 8
Last seen: 13 years, 6 months
DMT independence via Phalaris brachystachys
    #7379893 - 09/07/07 06:45 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Phalaris brachystachys seems to be an ideal plant species for gaining DMT independence. Tryptamine concentrations can be at least 2 to 3 times that of Mimosa hostilis, and the alkaloid profile is said to be very desireable consisting of almost only n,n-dmt. P. brachystachys is a semi-hardy fast growing annual grass that can be grown in virtually any climate. To harvest, simply cut and re-cut. Also, juicing grass is much easier than harvesting, stripping, grinding,and boiling root bark. The possibilities are incredible.


Edited by brachystachys (09/18/07 03:31 PM)


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblecpw1971
Mr
Male User Gallery
Registered: 10/07/06
Posts: 5,611
Re: DMT independence via Phalaris brachystachys [Re: brachystachys]
    #7380351 - 09/07/07 08:15 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

pics please :thumbup:
we wanna see your big old crop of it.


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineSiekoaktiv
version 2.0
Male


Registered: 03/18/07
Posts: 1,337
Last seen: 10 years, 10 months
Re: DMT independence via Phalaris brachystachys [Re: cpw1971]
    #7380416 - 09/07/07 08:32 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Once you juice it, how much liquid do you need to dose? Can you dry the stuff, grind it into a powder, and snuff it?


--------------------
I'm in need of a sterile sporeprint, if anyone wants to do a trade for some seeds or something, or maybe just for free if you have a lot of them............. i'd really appreciate it :mushroom2:

NuggetPorch said - "YES! YES!!!! Coaster its Faint, but its fucking there YOU see it!!! Perhaps we are both on some sort of unusual wave length associated with unusual neuro-transmitters, mind expansion white light, or something we can not even begin to understand or fathom to conceive because it is a gift of insight or a curse given to us by powers beyond our control, something we are not meant to know."


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineTeotzlcoatl
Teotzlcoatl
Male


Registered: 06/29/07
Posts: 2,421
Loc: South-Eastern USA
Last seen: 13 years, 2 months
Re: DMT independence via Phalaris brachystachys [Re: Siekoaktiv]
    #7380746 - 09/07/07 09:48 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

It has a HIGHER concentration of DMT than MIMOSA? You sure about that?

Are you using it in Aya' or a DMT extraction?

I would like to now about the purge effects of this plant...


--------------------
"We are the one's we have been waiting for"-Hopi proverb


Edited by Teotzlcoatl (09/07/07 09:48 PM)


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinebrachystachys
Stranger
Registered: 09/07/07
Posts: 8
Last seen: 13 years, 6 months
Re: DMT independence via Phalaris brachystachys [Re: Siekoaktiv]
    #7380911 - 09/07/07 10:19 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

here's a picture of this species on Erowid:http://www.erowid.org/plants/show_image.php?i=phalaris/phalaris_brachystachys__i2006e0013_disp.jpg

not sure about grinding into a powder when dried, because it would likely be a sticky tar. however, since it would leave such a small amount of material, you might could find a way to work with it and prepare it into a snuff.

Teo, stuides have indicated the alkaloid content to be up to 3.0%. This seems believable to those who have assayed it. Mimosa hostilis root bark is roughly 0.6-1.0%. M. hostilis is known to have a desirable pure alkaloid profile. P. brachystachys is said to as well. Purge is possible, probably similar to the potential with other common admixture plants. MAOI dosage and taste seem to be the biggest factor in nausea/purging. Working with Syrian Rue, there is no reason to exceed 2g. Over 3g of Syrian Rue taken alone can often cause purge.


Edited by brachystachys (09/16/07 11:33 AM)


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblecpw1971
Mr
Male User Gallery
Registered: 10/07/06
Posts: 5,611
Re: DMT independence via Phalaris brachystachys [Re: brachystachys]
    #7380954 - 09/07/07 10:28 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

so you haven't tried it yet???
I brought it up a few weeks ago in another thread. I grew a small amount of it about 4 years ago but I never tried any of it. I would be interested in some cheap bulk seed and not little vendor packets if thats what you can get. I still have a few seeds left over from when I grew it but thats not nearly enough.


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineTeotzlcoatl
Teotzlcoatl
Male


Registered: 06/29/07
Posts: 2,421
Loc: South-Eastern USA
Last seen: 13 years, 2 months
Re: DMT independence via Phalaris brachystachys [Re: brachystachys]
    #7380958 - 09/07/07 10:29 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Very interesting...the time you talked about where you took 2g of rue then a capsule filled with evaporate plant material...did you experience any nausea?

How was the trip? Very Aya'-like I would guess...


--------------------
"We are the one's we have been waiting for"-Hopi proverb


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinebrachystachys
Stranger
Registered: 09/07/07
Posts: 8
Last seen: 13 years, 6 months
Re: DMT independence via Phalaris brachystachys [Re: cpw1971]
    #7381021 - 09/07/07 10:43 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

me, tried it? of course not, that would be illegal where i'm from.
cpw, PM'd you the vendor, yes it's bulk seed.

Teo, in that scenario, yes, one would experience a good bit of nausea, yet perhaps no purge. could go either way honestly. i think thus is the nature of ayahuasca. depends on method and purity of extractions as well.


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblecpw1971
Mr
Male User Gallery
Registered: 10/07/06
Posts: 5,611
Re: DMT independence via Phalaris brachystachys [Re: brachystachys]
    #7381080 - 09/07/07 10:53 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

thanks man :thumbup:
Quote:

brachystachys said:
me, tried it? of course not, that would be illegal where i'm from.




  lol  why worry about illegalities with DMT independence???? :wink:


Edited by cpw1971 (09/07/07 10:54 PM)


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineTeotzlcoatl
Teotzlcoatl
Male


Registered: 06/29/07
Posts: 2,421
Loc: South-Eastern USA
Last seen: 13 years, 2 months
Re: DMT independence via Phalaris brachystachys [Re: cpw1971]
    #7381083 - 09/07/07 10:54 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Better safe then sorry....I've said alot of stupid shit I wish I hadn't...


--------------------
"We are the one's we have been waiting for"-Hopi proverb


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblecpw1971
Mr
Male User Gallery
Registered: 10/07/06
Posts: 5,611
Re: DMT independence via Phalaris brachystachys [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
    #7381092 - 09/07/07 10:56 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

read the thread title Teo :cool:
  I am just bustin balls  lol


Edited by cpw1971 (09/07/07 10:57 PM)


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineTeotzlcoatl
Teotzlcoatl
Male


Registered: 06/29/07
Posts: 2,421
Loc: South-Eastern USA
Last seen: 13 years, 2 months
Re: DMT independence via Phalaris brachystachys [Re: cpw1971]
    #7381108 - 09/07/07 10:58 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

What exactly do y'all mean by DMT independence?


--------------------
"We are the one's we have been waiting for"-Hopi proverb


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblecpw1971
Mr
Male User Gallery
Registered: 10/07/06
Posts: 5,611
Re: DMT independence via Phalaris brachystachys [Re: brachystachys]
    #7381144 - 09/07/07 11:05 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I can't get a cost for the seed without entering credit card info????


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineTeotzlcoatl
Teotzlcoatl
Male


Registered: 06/29/07
Posts: 2,421
Loc: South-Eastern USA
Last seen: 13 years, 2 months
Re: DMT independence via Phalaris brachystachys [Re: cpw1971]
    #7381151 - 09/07/07 11:07 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

damn...I wouldn't do that...


--------------------
"We are the one's we have been waiting for"-Hopi proverb


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblecpw1971
Mr
Male User Gallery
Registered: 10/07/06
Posts: 5,611
Re: DMT independence via Phalaris brachystachys [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
    #7381153 - 09/07/07 11:07 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Teotzlcoatl said:
What exactly do y'all mean by DMT independence?



  it means you will see the DMT aliens like in the movie "Independence Day"
  lol  I am in rare form tonight    sorry :crazy:


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineTeotzlcoatl
Teotzlcoatl
Male


Registered: 06/29/07
Posts: 2,421
Loc: South-Eastern USA
Last seen: 13 years, 2 months
Re: DMT independence via Phalaris brachystachys [Re: cpw1971]
    #7381179 - 09/07/07 11:12 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

:lol::thumbup:

Your normally very serious? Whatcha on? Anything?


--------------------
"We are the one's we have been waiting for"-Hopi proverb


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinebrachystachys
Stranger
Registered: 09/07/07
Posts: 8
Last seen: 13 years, 6 months
Re: DMT independence via Phalaris brachystachys [Re: cpw1971]
    #7381183 - 09/07/07 11:14 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

yeah, i wouldn't do that either
cpw, click on 'View Pricelist' on their homepage. let me know if you don't see it.

teo, permanent independence from vendors, at least once you've got your garden started.


Edited by brachystachys (09/16/07 11:44 AM)


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineRebirtha
I really like bread
Male User Gallery


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 09/22/03
Posts: 5,680
Loc: over there
Last seen: 4 months, 36 minutes
Re: DMT independence via Phalaris brachystachys [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
    #7381185 - 09/07/07 11:14 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I think by indepenence he/she means that you don't have to order root bark but you can grow the grass instead.


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineTeotzlcoatl
Teotzlcoatl
Male


Registered: 06/29/07
Posts: 2,421
Loc: South-Eastern USA
Last seen: 13 years, 2 months
Re: DMT independence via Phalaris brachystachys [Re: Rebirtha]
    #7381189 - 09/07/07 11:15 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

O sweet! YES I very much want to be self-sufficent in ALL of my entheogens that I use...


--------------------
"We are the one's we have been waiting for"-Hopi proverb


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleVirgilKane
Miner for truth and delusion
 User Gallery

Registered: 05/17/05
Posts: 1,131
Loc: lowdown
Re: DMT independence via Phalaris brachystachys [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
    #7381196 - 09/07/07 11:17 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

I can't get a cost for the seed without entering credit card info????




Hmmmm, wonder if the OP is having any luck selling his wares.:rolleyes:


--------------------
Absense of evidence is not evidence of absense...

"Religion is a defense against a religious experience"
              Carl G. Jung

 
"So really, ordinary reality is a kind of chemical habit, sanctioned by culture, which says it's okay to use certain drugs, eat certain foods, and have certain sexual behaviors. However, when you transcend all this pre-conditioning by returning to the original wisdom of the animal body, then you discover this immense dimension of opportunity. For some people, it is a frightening risk. To me, that's the psychedelic experience."
Terence McKenna


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Jump to top. Pages: 1 | 2 | Next >  [ show all ]

Shop: Kraken Kratom Kratom Capsules for Sale, Red Vein Kratom   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Bridgetown Botanicals CBD Capsules   Original Sensible Seeds Autoflowering Cannabis Seeds, Bulk Cannabis Seeds, Feminized Cannabis Seeds, High THC Strains, USA West Coast Strains   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   PhytoExtractum Kratom Powder for Sale   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Capsules, Kratom Powder For Sale   Amazon Ayahuasca, Syrian Rue

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics >> The Ethnobotanical Garden

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Phalaris brachystachys: "3% alks."? zekesdream 1,451 4 01/19/07 06:40 PM
by zekesdream
* varigated phalaris arundinacea DMT content? learysprotoge 7,294 10 03/19/09 06:12 PM
by alphacat
* DMT from phalaris grass? Anonymous 1,737 5 01/03/06 02:32 PM
by hnc
* dmt in phalarys arundinacea var picta mezkal 2,008 1 04/06/05 07:40 PM
by Chemical_Bliss
* Reed canary grass (phalaris arundinacea) *woot* can_aroma 3,456 7 04/08/08 09:29 PM
by ngnyus
* Phalaris arundinacea? PoC 1,395 4 05/10/08 12:27 AM
by Zinglons Acolyte
* To end all phalaris questions. ngnyus 6,545 9 03/22/09 02:01 PM
by Spiderbaby
* Phararis aquatica or Phalaris Arundinacea sniffy 3,650 8 08/03/08 10:10 PM
by cpw1971

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: karode13, naum, Mostly_Harmless
5,704 topic views. 1 members, 6 guests and 13 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Print Topic ]
Search this thread:
Edabea
Please support our sponsors.

Copyright 1997-2021 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.027 seconds spending 0.005 seconds on 15 queries.