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Offlinemisfit
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are these pins?
    #428102 - 10/17/01 12:33 AM (22 years, 8 months ago)

Are these the starting of pins, or are they rhizomorphic strands popping throught the casing.
Also if these aren't pins how long till they start do you think?
If they are pins does this look like it will be a large flush?

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Re: are these pins? [Re: misfit]
    #428112 - 10/17/01 12:46 AM (22 years, 8 months ago)

you have pins, but they are the little white dots,
not the rizo growth you think they are.
just wait a few days.
you will know pins when you see them start to grow.

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Re: are these pins? [Re: zero]
    #428139 - 10/17/01 01:14 AM (22 years, 8 months ago)

thanks

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Re: are these pins? [Re: misfit]
    #428228 - 10/17/01 05:36 AM (22 years, 8 months ago)

I really don't see any pins yet, save for maybe one in the lower right side of the pic on the left. The mycelia have colonized the casing nicely -- the strands you see shooting out are normal. Depending on the conditions you maintain, you can have a nice pin set. Most importantly at this stage -- BE PATIENT.

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Re: are these pins? [Re: Insomnia]
    #428457 - 10/17/01 01:22 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks alot.
I have some more questions, one of which is will it matter if the temp is around 70 instead of 75. I'm sure this will effect the time it takes for the flush to come but how much will it effect it. Or will the flush come at all. I am, for these casings you see, growing Thai koh samui, and I just made 2 more with Eq's. Also what do you think the best conditons would be?
And does it matter the size of the container that they are in until they start to pin? I have the cakes in a pretty small container, I am planning on finnishing the terrerium later today.
Again thanks for helping me out.

Edited by misfit (10/17/01 01:26 PM)

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Re: are these pins? [Re: misfit]
    #428460 - 10/17/01 01:24 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

the slightly lower temp may increase the time and decrease the size ,but it should increase potency.

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Re: are these pins? [Re: misfit]
    #428468 - 10/17/01 01:34 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

I was just wondering also. Should I be worried about some DEA agents looking at this and then tracing the signal back to my computer or something? Cause there are some people that are paranoid. Should I be? Has anyone ever had anything happen to them that anyone knows about?

Edited by misfit (10/17/01 01:35 PM)

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Re: are these pins? [Re: misfit]
    #428666 - 10/17/01 04:59 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

even if the DEA were to try to trace anything back to you (which they certainly wont) why would you be worried? its not like those pics are yours. You found them on the internet and were curious about them, right?

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Re: are these pins? [Re: hyperspace_elf]
    #428669 - 10/17/01 05:04 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

Posting pictures and clearly saying that they were yourse would not hold up in court. They *could* come to your house and find the shit but it is very, very unlikely and rarely happens. Vendors, on the other hand, I believe have been searched before.


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Re: are these pins? [Re: hyperspace_elf]
    #429022 - 10/17/01 11:20 PM (22 years, 8 months ago)

I know the odds are for me, the reason I asked is everyone is like oh my grandpappy and uncle are growing blah blah blah and I got me thinkin.
Thanks guys

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Re: are these pins? [Re: misfit]
    #429182 - 10/18/01 06:18 AM (22 years, 7 months ago)

Lower temps slow down the fruiting cycle. You can stagger harvests if you're creative about temp control.

Not sure what you mean by container size. Micro casings casn be achieved very nicely in very small containers -- you can get a nice even flush from a tiny container with two 1/2 pint crumbled cakes in it. The more substrate, the more mushrooms and subsequent flushes.

Here are some pics I posted 8 months ago or so. These are P. Cubensis Cambodia, cased in a tray that's roughly 11" long X 5.5" wide X 5" deep. Pics are fruiting day 3, 4, and 5. Harvest was day 5. The pics represent the diversity you get from a mtulispore inoculation. I did this purposely to get spores from the earliest and biggest fruits (which you can see in the middle of each pic. More than one dry ounce from that, but again, the goal was to get spores representing specific traits to isolate.



Day 3



Day 4



Day 5

Hope this helps.


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Re: are these pins? [Re: Insomnia]
    #429382 - 10/18/01 01:23 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

Nice flush.
Mine still looked the same as before so I deep scratched two of them and left one regular to see which worked better. I cased two more yesterday, one a Koh Samui and one an Eq. I used the left over substrate from my grain to grain transfer. I was also thinking of birthing one of my cakes today, I just finnished my two terreriums last night.
I thoughtof cold shocking the casings to see if it had helped any, but I think my parents would wonder why there was dirt in the 'fridge ;) I'm stiil deciding.
The first round of koh samui (the three I had before that I asked if the rizos where pins) havent shown any new signs except more overtaking of the casing. Mabey I should just be patient like I was told to before, its just I had hoped to trip by halloween. Oh well. Here is what the casings look like today. Three old first and then two new.

this is the one I didnt scratch...

and these are the two that I cased yesterdaythe first is the Eq


When I said that the container I meant that the container that is holding the foil pans is very small. No that I am on the subject though I really didnt use all that much substrate in the casings, an inch at most. I guess when my spawns are completed then I can make bigger casings and shit. The foil pans are 8.5 X 4.5 X 2.5 deep inches. And I have some other 1 lb loaf pans that are 6 x 3.5 x 2 I guess those will be super Micro casings eh.
Thanks for the advice and help everyone
later

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Re: are these pins? [Re: Insomnia]
    #429798 - 10/18/01 08:36 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

How long did it take from casing to fruiting? Those look awesome!! I hope mine turn out like that, I won't move from my couch for days :}.
One more thing, what tech did you use for the casing is that Hongus (verm) tech? Any more information on what you did I would be greatful!
CaseXX


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Edited by CaseXX (10/18/01 08:42 PM)

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InvisibleInsomnia
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Re: are these pins? [Re: CaseXX]
    #430266 - 10/19/01 06:34 AM (22 years, 7 months ago)

Hi CaseXX,

Again, those are P. Cubensis Cambodia grown from a syringe from a vendor. Full colonization of sterlile BRF/Verm in pint jars took 14 days. Crumbled the cakes and cased with sterile 50/50 Peat/Verm. Let recover for 24 hours, then placed under fluorescent light in a chamber humidifed with moist perlite. Air exchange performed by hand. Saw pins around 4 days later. Harvest 5 days after that. Total was 24-25 days. Dried in a small, airtight chamber with dessicant without any air or fan drying first.


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Re: are these pins? [Re: Insomnia]
    #430331 - 10/19/01 09:12 AM (22 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks!


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Re: are these pins? [Re: Insomnia]
    #430423 - 10/19/01 11:20 AM (22 years, 7 months ago)

I think I hurt the mycellium. I sprayed h2o2 solution on the casing s few days ago, before I posted my question, and now it looks dead. Before it look all fluffy white and new areas were being colonized, now it just looks kind of lifless and matted to the casing. Do you think I hurt it badly? The solution was a cap full of h2o2 in a small sprayer. Is that too much?

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Re: are these pins? [Re: misfit]
    #430464 - 10/19/01 11:56 AM (22 years, 7 months ago)

No, you didn't ruin everything.

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Re: are these pins? [Re: misfit]
    #430467 - 10/19/01 12:02 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

The mycelia will recover, but it sounds like you're tampering with the casing too much. Do yourself the favor: be paitent. Wait for pins. Messing around too much, especially with liquids, can open the door to the nasties.


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