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FirstAvailable
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What mild dosage would you suggest if one were to use the paper to roll a joint, and smoke that?
Or is this a bad idea?
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redgreenvines
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you could not use that paper to roll a joint but you could put 1/50th of that piece of paper into a joint, but it would be weird much easier to inhale it as a minitoke with tons of fresh air and hold that.
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FirstAvailable
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why couldn't I do that?
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redgreenvines
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it would be as strong as a whole gram of 10x what good is that? toooo strooong
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FirstAvailable
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well thats what I was asking. What would be a good dosage? What if the ammount of actives on that 1/50 of a sheet was spread over a whole sheet?
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redgreenvines
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the problem with that approach (i see you have the math right) is that you will end up smoking your hit in a multiple of inhallations.
if that happens you will not threashold well. you will sub threashold all the way. (no hit!)
the full effective amount should get in the blood right away and at once or it starts becoming like the oral experience creeping towards getting the effect but not getting it.
do that and then smoke a cigarette of something or vice versa (if yopu like smoking).
personally I do not go for smoking at all but it can be made quite efficient for salvinorin.
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FirstAvailable
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so you think it would produce kinda like a "creeper" salvia trip? How would that interact, do you think, with the weed?
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Chronicmind
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im guessing i did this wrong or somethin because when i tried salvia it was crappy, i bought a gram of the smokeable form, smoked some of it and all that happened was i felt a little bit stoned and the stars looked pretty cool but this only lasted like 15 mins, did i do something wrong? and how much are you supposed to use at a time?
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FirstAvailable
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Yea, it is supposed to come on really fast and only last a little bit.
youre supposed to smoke between .25-.75g, as per erowid.
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dmtbliss
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now what about if i say, hypothetically, had 250mg of pure salvinorum-A (96%) and wanted to put that on blotter? Could anyone give me the correct math for that?
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redgreenvines
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250mg salvinorin? [Re: dmtbliss]
#3948349 - 03/21/05 10:33 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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you have enough there for 25-35 Oral chewing doses (10 mg ea) or 400-600 smoking doses
i reccommend using cigarette paper for your blotter - it is good enough to hold the material, and easier to burn if you decide to enjoy the manifold greater joys of the smoked version.
re-extracting from blotting paper could be a drag.
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sublimistri
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Im interested in learning how to make these papers. I might ask you a few questions about it in the future when i havee my leaves. Oh and also redgreenvines , would you be willing to sell me a few doses of this ciggarette paper for me to try?
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Edited by sublimistri (03/21/05 04:37 PM)
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redgreenvines
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sorry, I am not commercial. but it is easy to make 48 smokes from 1 gm of standardized 10x (please use standardized or you will get black tarry paper)
equipment: 1 gm 10x standardized, 2 glass shot glasses, ~1.5 OZ chilled acetone, a glass dropper, 1 cigarette paper (2 if you got 20x), a small glass or metal box (bigger than all the papers you will put on it), some tooth floss or cotton thread to wrapp around the box as a support fo the paper(s).
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(A) extract the good stuff into acetone (should take 15 minutes at most): ---(i) put extract into shot glass. ---(ii) fill shot glass 1/3 with acetone and stir well for 5 mins. ---(iii) pour and strain acetone to second shot glass. ---(iv) repeat (i-iii) ---(v) squeeze last drops of fluid into collection of light green fluid (will be dark green or black if not standardized) (B) drip all the acetone evenly onto one cigarette paper (should take less than 40 mins): ---(i) put cigarette paper on a loose web of tooth floss (or cotton thread) wrapped over a small box so that fluid does not wick into the supporting surface. (acetone dissolves plastic and paints etc. so use glass and stainless steel where ever possible). ---(ii) using a glass dropper dripp about 8 drops onto the paper, and allow to dry. ---(iii) repeat until all the acetone has been dripped onto the paper and evaporated, if it is evaporating up the sides of the shot glass use the dropper to encourage the salvinorin back into solution by dripping inside the shot glass walls and stirring gently with the dropper. (C) if you are smoking, finally cut paper into 4 pieces (half then half again) then each quarter into 3 pieces then each 12th into 4 pieces (half then half again) for 48 total.
each tiny piece of cigarette paper should be one measured smokable dose. If too strong you will know how much to cut back each time, if too weak you will know to double up or take one and a half pieces for your constitution.
(depending on the strength of the 10x, the paper will now have 22-32 mg salvinorin impregnated in it. If you are interested in oral you might just chew 1/4 to 1/2 of the full cigarette paper and not bother cutting it into smokes, I store my papers at 1/4 sheets to cut to 12 later for smoking)
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Edited by redgreenvines (03/21/05 10:40 PM)
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TRaNCeD
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Damn I smoked that shit it got me all fucked up. Take a blotter of that shit. Thats one hell of a trip.
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