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OfflineBrAiN
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    #3671247 - 01/24/05 05:58 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

yooz guys remember the old nuking programs that would crash a win98 system if you had someone's IP address? there's nothing like that nowadays for xp/2000/2003 is there?


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Re: nuking [Re: BrAiN]
    #3671394 - 01/24/05 07:31 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

If you have to ask...


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Re: nuking [Re: delta9]
    #3671579 - 01/24/05 10:19 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Nope.
There is nothing even close to that now. Get out a hex editor and start looking at code thats the only way to find a real usable exploit in the kernel right now. Everything is being patched much faster now.


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Re: nuking [Re: nife]
    #3671600 - 01/24/05 10:34 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Get on vendor-sec and other lists


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Re: nuking [Re: BrAiN]
    #3671693 - 01/24/05 11:37 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

hahahaha, brain you have had some gems as posts lately.

Nah the blue screen of death with only an ip doesnt work anymore. When that first came out boy was it fun to piss off my friends.


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Re: nuking [Re: baraka]
    #3672724 - 01/24/05 04:37 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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hahahaha, brain you have had some gems as posts lately.

Nah the blue screen of death with only an ip doesnt work anymore.  When that first came out boy was it fun to piss off my friends.




Almost as fun as installing BackOrifice on your friends' computers, then filling their hard drives with mad ammounts of gay pr0n :lol:


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Re: nuking [Re: BrAiN]
    #3672745 - 01/24/05 04:44 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Hahaha BrAiN is a script kiddie!

:lol:

BTW here's a joke I made up this second just for you:

Q: How do you crash a Mac?
A: Who the fuck cares?

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Re: nuking [Re: Ythan]
    #3685031 - 01/26/05 09:27 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Nice mac joke.

Those things just annoy the hell out of me.


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Re: nuking [Re: aje]
    #3686400 - 01/27/05 12:50 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: nuking [Re: illahee]
    #3686743 - 01/27/05 01:42 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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illahee said:
thought you fellas might enjoy this:

http://www.i-hacked.com/Misc/Random-Stuff/Hacking-Coke-Machines.html


Two years ago at DefCon I went to the coke machine by Pool 2 and saw it was $1.50 for a single soda.  I was happily surprised when it spat out two for me :wink:.


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Re: nuking [Re: delta9]
    #3699675 - 01/29/05 09:19 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Now a days folks do dos and ddos attacks on peoples ip's/servers.
People like that should be made to wear shoes on their hands whilst on the net !!!
c*nts


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Re: nuking [Re: BrAiN]
    #3699693 - 01/29/05 09:23 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

As I understand it, that was effective because Win 9X had port 135 (file and print sharing) open by default. XP has this port closed by default, so it's no longer effective and you should be "safe". Never having used the other two versions, I can't say I know about them...


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Re: nuking [Re: Le_Canard]
    #3699776 - 01/29/05 09:40 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I thought XP had port 135 open by a default installation mate.
Here is a tweak to close it though

http://www.antionline.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=255547&highlight=port+135
Hopefully you can see it without the need of a log in

Black Viper has a nice tut on securing an XP OS a lil bit more then the way it comes http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm

umm perhaps it is listening by default, i can't check it from here but perhaps someone else can?


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Re: nuking [Re: Geezer]
    #3699875 - 01/29/05 10:09 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

My bad - you're right. Only it's called "DCOM" in XP, and it does keep port 135 open by default. Here's a nice little free (and safe) program from Gibson Research that can detect this vulnerability and "plug" it up.
And Black Viper's page is also great WinXP resource to be sure! :thumbup:


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Re: nuking [Re: Geezer]
    #3699897 - 01/29/05 10:14 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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As I understand it, that was effective because Win 9X had port 135 (file and print sharing) open by default.



IANA Port Assignments
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epmap 135/tcp DCE endpoint resolution
epmap 135/udp DCE endpoint resolution



You mean 137 (to 139), as MS File and Print Sharing works of NETBIOS
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netbios-ns 137/tcp NETBIOS Name Service
netbios-ns 137/udp NETBIOS Name Service
netbios-dgm 138/tcp NETBIOS Datagram Service
netbios-dgm 138/udp NETBIOS Datagram Service
netbios-ssn 139/tcp NETBIOS Session Service
netbios-ssn 139/udp NETBIOS Session Service




"Nuke" programs work by exploiting vulnerabilities in software listening on various ports... Usually because the programmers did not think of (or have time to implement) certain test cases, most often buffer underruns and overruns, though there are many many exploitable flaws in many many pieces of software.


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Re: nuking [Re: Le_Canard]
    #3699907 - 01/29/05 10:16 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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ToiletDuk said:
My bad - you're right. Only it's called "DCOM" in XP, and it does keep port 135 open by default. Here's a nice little free (and safe) program from Gibson Research that can detect this vulnerability and "plug" it up.
And Black Viper's page is also great WinXP resource to be sure! :thumbup:


Please don't point *anyone* to GRC, *ever*.  He's a media sensationalist, not a security analyst.  There is nothing safe about ANY of his software.


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Re: nuking [Re: delta9]
    #3699937 - 01/29/05 10:20 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

delta9 said:
IANA Port Assignments
Quote:

epmap          135/tcp    DCE endpoint resolution
epmap          135/udp    DCE endpoint resolution



You mean 137 (to 139), as MS File and Print Sharing works of NETBIOS
Quote:

netbios-ns      137/tcp    NETBIOS Name Service   
netbios-ns      137/udp    NETBIOS Name Service   
netbios-dgm    138/tcp    NETBIOS Datagram Service
netbios-dgm    138/udp    NETBIOS Datagram Service
netbios-ssn    139/tcp    NETBIOS Session Service
netbios-ssn    139/udp    NETBIOS Session Service




"Nuke" programs work by exploiting vulnerabilities in software listening on various ports...  Usually because the programmers did not think of (or have time to implement) certain test cases, most often buffer underruns and overruns, though there are many many exploitable flaws in many many pieces of software.







Thanks for the info. That was very educational and I stand corrected! :laugh:

Quote:

delta9 said:
Please don't point *anyone* to GRC, *ever*.  He's a media sensationalist, not a security analyst.  There is nothing safe about ANY of his software.




Do tell.. How so?


Edited by Le_Canard (01/29/05 10:26 PM)


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Re: nuking [Re: Le_Canard]
    #3699972 - 01/29/05 10:30 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

How he is a quack of a security analyst? Well, grcsucks.com is devoted to exposing him, from their introduction:
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Steve Gibson often is referred to as being a "Security Expert", yet one has to see his appearances on *real* security boards/interviews/gatherings. Where was Steve Gibson at Defcon/BlackHat Conference ? Why doesn't he comment/ on Bugtraq or other Security Focus mailing lists ?
The answer is quite simple: he would get nailed down by arguments and facts from real security experts in less then a minute. These persons tend not to be very impressed by self-proclaimed Security Experts and his obfuscation of the real issues and intentions.

As you can read on his resume page, Gibson worked for years as a marketer "Gibson founded a proprietorship specializing in media advertising and public relations" , and that's what he is really good at.


I've never seen or heard of him at DefCon or Blackhat, myself. If I had seen him at DefCon I probably would have drowned him in pool 3 to save us all some trouble... Remember, what happens here, stays here; Vegas Baby!

As far as why none of his software is safe, well, he writes all of his software in assembly, so he gets access to many lower-order computer functions, and none (or few, but I don't recall any) of his tools are open source (edit: granted, you can disassemble any of the .exe's but this is nothing like seeing his pre-assembly source with comments, macros, and what have you) so you don't even get to SEE what he is trying to do...

Use at your own risk.


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Re: nuking [Re: delta9]
    #3699981 - 01/29/05 10:33 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I see. Quite enlightening, I must say...


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