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Offlinefruers
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Dry verm layer gone damp
    #358465 - 07/21/01 08:43 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

The top verm layer in my jars has gone damp, are there any problems with this? My main concern is increased risk of contamination. Does this happen often? My jars are incubating in high humidity but they had the foil left on so there shouldn't have been much moisture exchange.



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Re: Dry verm layer gone damp [Re: fruers]
    #358521 - 07/21/01 10:53 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

are you an idiot? humidity initiates fruiting, dont use it to incubate! if you opened up the jars and checked the verm layer then i wouldnt use them, but if you didnt and can see through things then it shouldnt be much of a problem. its more risky that youll get a contam but it should still work.

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Re: Dry verm layer gone damp [Re: aluminum_can]
    #358537 - 07/21/01 11:36 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Can we get a little help here.
Humidity does not initiate fruiting humidity give the mycelium and fruit body the h2o needed, because shrooms are 90% water.
This was taken off the micron magick site because it was the site that came to mind. I NSF2 would like me to remove it let me know.
I HIGHLY recommend that you keep your jars in a incubation chamber. We used a plastic container (colored NOT translucent) with an inch of wet Perlite. Only difference between this and some of your fruiting chamber is no hole cut in the top to let light in.
This will help make sure your substrate stays at it's proper moisture content. The container can then be wrapped in an electric blanket set to medium to keep the temp at 84-86F, for quick colonization.
aluminum-can before you call someone who is asking for help an idiot get your facts strait this board is here to help and not to ridicule Go pick up
A book called the Mushroom Cultivator and read it before you spread more false information.

fruers it can be a problem if the verm get's moist the idea of the DRY verm layer is to act as a filter if the layer is dry and a mold spore get's in there it can not grow with out water(moisture) I would not touch them to much now and if your top layer is wet a dark dry warm place would be better than a than adding a warm damp dark place.

Please excuse aluminum_can for he is learning as well and do not think that every time you ask a valid question he you will be called an idiot. Most of the people here just like myself are learning new things daily.
Hope this helps you both out.



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Re: Dry verm layer gone damp [Re: dimitri211]
    #358564 - 07/22/01 01:26 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Standard cultivation practice is to incubate closed substate containers in middle humid enviroments(~60%RH) to prevent the growth of molds on the outside of the containers(which could then come to inside)

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Re: Dry verm layer gone damp [Re: dimitri211]
    #358565 - 07/22/01 01:27 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks dimitri, guess i'll just keep my fingers crossed and hope i don't get any contams, would it be a good idea to tape up the innoc. holes? It's winter here and indoor temps are usually around 10C (50F) during the night, i'm using a similar setup to the alien incubator. Didn't feel like burning holes in my camping esky for air exchange like the tek says (just opening it up once a day for fresh air), that's why the humidity is high.
aluminum_can: judging by your posts you're the idiot on this board, and you just made an ass of yourself again, have mushrooms done nothing for your inflated ego?



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Re: Dry verm layer gone damp [Re: fruers]
    #358572 - 07/22/01 01:44 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Damage has been done Taping the holes might contaminate rather that help the situation. You can try it but I would leave well enough alone you can try it by doing 1/2 of your jars to see if it will work.
alumin-cans heart was trying to be in the right place but starting a reply to a question with are you an idiot showed that his brain was a little off.
So I hope you both gained something from this whole thread.
Also check out the post grain masters there is a tek that ANNO directed everyone to (@ the forest floor) and I was reading it and it sounds like a good way to prevent contams all together.
Again we are always learing.

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Re: Dry verm layer gone damp [Re: aluminum_can]
    #358650 - 07/22/01 06:19 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Nice attitude - we all love that... Great idea Dimitri - I never thought of perlite to humidify the incubation chamber...I usually dont have too much trouble with jars drying out though...

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Edited by bluemeanie on 07/22/01 05:23 AM.



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