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Re: MJ seeds to P.O. Box [Re: theocean06]
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You do make a good point bi0. I think I'm going to go with the P.O. Box instead of the UPS - Thank you guys for your help.


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Re: MJ seeds to P.O. Box [Re: theocean06]
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i know three people two in wa state one in MN that been cought with seeds and the cops gave them back after they were done with them


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Re: MJ seeds to P.O. Box [Re: onetime]
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the cops gave the seeds back?


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Re: MJ seeds to P.O. Box [Re: theocean06]
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yes two of the guys were good freinds and one was my gf they said they are legal but cops are stupid and dont know the laws most the time i think its non citeable in washington as its a medical state and they are legal for medical use here


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Re: MJ seeds to P.O. Box [Re: theocean06]
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err, that wasnt my advice. my advice was having cannabis seeds sent to a PO box in your own name is foolish and to be avoided. All I said about USPS vs UPS is that there is little difference between the two in regards to security - either option would be a retarded choice.

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Re: MJ seeds to P.O. Box [Re: Vvellum]
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No, I meant you have a point in that it doesn't really matter if I choose a P.O. Box or the UPS store.  Also, I don't see how it is retarded because even if those seeds were to be confiscated (which isn't very likely at all) - 20 confiscated seeds = :smirk:

The thing I care about is not having them sent to the place I am growing


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Re: MJ seeds to P.O. Box [Re: theocean06]
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well good luck to you. I personally wouldnt have any name associated with a felony by way of papertrail.

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Re: MJ seeds to P.O. Box [Re: Vvellum]
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bi0 said:
well good luck to you. I personally wouldnt have any name associated with a felony by way of papertrail.


Ordering illegal things to any location that has your real name on it is asking for trouble.
Ask a friend you trust to order them, adn then "lose" them.
Get a fake and open the box.

Any number of ways.


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Re: MJ seeds to P.O. Box [Re: Randolph_Carter]
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yup
that's security 101

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Re: MJ seeds to P.O. Box [Re: Randolph_Carter]
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The thing is, I don't want anyone to know about my grow until harvest time, when someone will probably found out due to the amount of mj I have.  "Get a fake and open the box" I don't know about that one, all the fake ID's around here seem to be from out of state.

bi0, you say you "wouldnt have any name associated with a felony" but have you heard of anyone getting in trouble for 20 seeds?  I haven't.  Paper trail? Like if I get busted for the grow, they can say I bought seeds?  At that point seeds wouldn't really matter. 

Anyway, you guys make it seem like if i were to buy seeds then the cops would were monitoring me or something.  They don't put cops on you for seeds.  Either they find them and take them, or they don't find them.  I think there is too much paranoia in this thread :wink:


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Re: MJ seeds to P.O. Box [Re: theocean06]
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you're playing the "what are the chances..." game - this has led many down the road toward felony convictions.

you are familiar with operation green merchant, correct? The DEA would monitor people who entered hydroponic stores; they would copy down the license plate numbers of customers, follow and spy on them, steal their garbage, and subpoena utility bills to check electrical usage, among other tactics in their effort to catch and arrest people for marijuana cultivation. do you think that any of these customers ever knew what was going on? The people that served 10+ years in federal prison probably wished they were more paranoid and had taken an extra step so that they did not purchase the hydro equipment themselves.

See, I do not consider myself paranoid because all of my concerns are reasonable. My concern for your well-being has bearing on reality. I believe you probably will get away with this, but the point of security culture is to minimize all vectors of possbile bust scenerios - having cannabis seeds sent directly to a place in your name that you will be picking up yourself to take to your grow place is a massive bust opportunity that can easily be avoided. Why not take the extra step and have the seeds sent elsewhere? Spend a few days thinking of how it can be done - you'll come up with something.

If you're so confident in the US Postal Service respecting your privacy, why not have the seeds sent to your grow location? I mean, why bother with a PO Box? If your name is on the PO Box, there is no real difference.

I wish you good luck - I know someone serving time for a drug bust similar to what you're attempting. He was careless and played the "what are the chances..." game and lost. He's got 12 more years in a federal pen. And once he gets out, he'll never get a decent job because of the felony charges on his record.

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Re: MJ seeds to P.O. Box [Re: Vvellum]
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Thank you for your reply bi0, I can see you are a man who knows what he is talking about and is concerned with my well-being and I thank you for that. I meant no disrespect when I called you paranoid, for when it comes to drugs, being paranoid is, in most cases, a good thing. I was unaware of operation green merchant (I will be growing outside if that matters), and have gotten most of my information about the subject from overgrow.com - here is an example:

http://overgrow.com/edge/showthread.php?...mp;pagenumber=1

"When you order seeds, if customs finds them, they will be seized. In the US you will get a note stating that they have been seized and that's the end of it. There will be no agents showing up at your door. You will not be under surveillance for the rest of your life"

"Possession of seeds alone, while technically a criminal offence will 99% of the time not result in your arrest. It is simply not worth anyone's while. There is one reported case in Canada where a person was busted for 1000's of seeds in a headshop. The fine was $250. I know of no cases in the US, if someone else does, please post it"

"Simply put, for the police to know or care about seeds being shipped to you would require a great deal of money, resources and the cooperation of several international agencies. If you are on the hot list of mail recipents in the Customs and DEA/RCMP/Interpol database, you should not be growing in the first place."


So you see, that is just part of the reason why I am so "confident" (that is not quite the word I would use to describe the way I'm acting, but it gets the point across), but I hope I am not coming off as cocky or rude for I truly do appreciate your advice.


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Re: MJ seeds to P.O. Box [Re: theocean06]
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Also from overgrow.com

http://overgrow.com/edge/showthread.php?...mp;pagenumber=2

"The only real danger of having the seeds sent to your grow show is the fact that you might already be under surveillance and this could further grounds for a warrant.

The other problem is the "X-Factor."

The X-Factor being some nosy person either in customs or the post office, or an accident where the seeds are discovered and Johnny Born Again who happens to be your postman decides to make a fuss....

You never know, and as the term implies, you can't predict the possible troubles. So, out of prudence.....send them elsewhere if possible.

I have things like clones and seeds sent to my office just because I want to make sure I actually get them. I don't grow at home so I would also send them there, but my mailbox is not secure.

Realistically the concept of sending them to your grow op is not much of a concern unless you are already being watched, and if that is the case - the game is pretty much over anyway.

I would argue that it is much safer to send them to your home than to implicate another person.

In my experience, people just can't keep thier mouths shut"

1) Might already be under surveillance - I'm not
2) Postman finding them - well, my mailman comes in a big truck and has to deliver hundreds of items daily. He stops at my mailbox, puts the mail in, and leaves in about 5 seconds so there is about a 99.99% (basically it isn't) chance that isn't going to happen
3) mailbox is not secure - Mine is, it's all by itself, not next to any other mailbox so unless someone is robbing my mailbox (which has never happened), I have nothing to worry there


"In my experience, people just can't keep thier mouths shut"

That's my biggest concern. See, I've got two people in mind where I could send them to, and there my best friends. There great guys, but I don't about trusting them with something like that. People love to feel important and talking about someone's grow is a great conversation piece. I'm afraid they might blab the secret.


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Re: MJ seeds to P.O. Box [Re: theocean06]
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well good luck :thumbup:
maybe some day we will not have to worry about being busted for something as innocuous as marijuana.

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Re: MJ seeds to P.O. Box [Re: Vvellum]
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And you made a good point when you said it doesn't really matter if I send it to a P.O. Box since it will be in my real name, and that overgrow post tends to make it out as if sending them to your place isn't that big of a deal, unless your being watched. I have decided to send it to my place, as stupid as it may sound. I am taking my chances on something that is very dangerous, but I feel I will be alright in the end. That will be the only worry in my grow, and I will follow the rest of security 101 to the T. I will throw this information in my "vault" and no one will have a clue until it is all harvested and cured.

I thank all of you guys for sharing with me your advice and for helping me.


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