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 One-liners 
#3370207 - 11/16/04 05:43 PM (19 years, 15 days ago) |
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Any sufficiently advanced student of zen, should be able to crystalize entire mountains of thought in just one line.
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 Re: One-liners [Re: Swami]
#3370216 - 11/16/04 05:44 PM (19 years, 15 days ago) |
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Why zen?
Wouldn't a sufficiently advanced student of language be able to do a better job?
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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.
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gettinjiggywithit
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Re: One-liners [Re: trendal]
#3370230 - 11/16/04 05:46 PM (19 years, 15 days ago) |
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I think a student of sufficiently advanced comprehension should be able to do the best job.
I was to busy shooting spit wads during comprehension teachings. 
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Re: One-liners [Re: Swami]
#3370233 - 11/16/04 05:47 PM (19 years, 15 days ago) |
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What is the definition of quality?
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Swami
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Quality is the antithesis of the dance those people are doing in your avatar...
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Corporal Kielbasa
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Re: One-liners [Re: Swami]
#3370325 - 11/16/04 06:01 PM (19 years, 15 days ago) |
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But what if one did not shaire your belief that that is quality? How can one define and judge something based on this "quality" if it is totaly a personal view on the subject?
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 JacquesCousteau
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Didn't you know? Swami's definitions of any given word are the end all be all explanation that we all have to submit to!
Silly question, man. 
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Gomp
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"it is party time!"
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deff
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Re: One-liners [Re: Gomp]
#3370813 - 11/16/04 07:21 PM (19 years, 15 days ago) |
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not really. sometimes two is better 
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kaiowas
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Re: One-liners [Re: Swami]
#3370860 - 11/16/04 07:31 PM (19 years, 15 days ago) |
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is it the amount of thought or is it the precision of the author?
under what premise about zen are you referring to anyway?
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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.
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Re: One-liners [Re: kaiowas]
#3370913 - 11/16/04 07:41 PM (19 years, 15 days ago) |
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the premise of a camel eating it's own past
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Re: One-liners [Re: Swami]
#3372187 - 11/16/04 11:48 PM (19 years, 15 days ago) |
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You are, therefore, you are.
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The day will come when, after harnessing the ether, the winds, the tides, gravitation, we shall harness for God the energies of love. And, on that day, for the second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire. -Teilard
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Re: One-liners [Re: Swami]
#3372605 - 11/17/04 01:46 AM (19 years, 15 days ago) |
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When is someone going to bust out with an epic mountain of storms statement??  thus, I think your notions about the students of zen are wrong.
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DNKYD
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Here I sit broken hearted, tried to shit but only farted.
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Re: One-liners [Re: Swami]
#3379141 - 11/18/04 11:13 AM (19 years, 13 days ago) |
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That thought I previosly omitted, later I vomitted
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gettinjiggywithit
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I just hit quick reply.
Before you can sum something up into a packed full one liner, you have to have have read the book and comprehended it well.
There is no such thing as summary without a bigger story behind it. Life is made up of both books, living and written and one liners of defintive actions and text derived from them.
Life can't be all about one lined points or it would be a painful pokey place to live in full of jabs and pricks at every turn.
Sure they get our attention, often with a ouch or a tickle laugh depending on where and how they poke you and how soft or sharpened the point is.
We also need room to freely move around in and that is where the random pointless or softened rounded out verbage come in to play.
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gettinjiggywithit
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Another thing about one liners. They are vague to anyone who has NEVER read or lived the book.
Are one liner comdienes funny if they talk about geshbah on planet dorika?
Are one liner poets and philosophers able to reach you if they talk about flinkle.
If you have experienced geshbah on dorika and have a life filled with flinkle then one liners mean something and are not vague.
The bottom line is relation and our ability to relate to ideas, feelings people and experiences. If relating isn't taking place, the short and long of it is vague.
It's not to the fault of the information itself but rather vaguness comes at the fault of the sender or receivers inability to make a connection that is meaningful. It takes two to do that in the long and short of it.
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Edited by gettinjiggywithit (11/18/04 12:49 PM)
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Swami
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Nacho cheese Dorika - mmm!
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Gomp
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"if I ever die, I must be dead"
-unknowmn :P
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Edited by Gomp (11/18/04 01:00 PM)
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gettinjiggywithit
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Re: One-liners [Re: Swami]
#3379683 - 11/18/04 01:38 PM (19 years, 13 days ago) |
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Quote:
Swami said:
Nacho cheese Dorika - mmm!
Is that like flinkle and beans?
You get it. We can only take from something to the measure of our ability to relate to it, short or long.
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