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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: B Traven] * 1
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B Traven said:
GenesisCorrupted said:
We have systems like irrigation and crop rotation now. We don't need to sacrifice babies.



Oh, don't worry, our water management systems DEFINITELY sacrifice babies.


Where do y'all get your sacrificial babies from?

I usually pick mine up from Walmart, but I'm wondering if there's a more eco friendly alternative


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 4
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It is staggering what percentage of the population does not care about wasting resources.  I grew up learning reduce, reuse, recycle.  It was taught in school.  Recently my wife's aunt thought she was limiting me because muh wife ripped a paper towel in half and handed me just one half.  It was more than enough to wipe my face off.

If only I could ensure my seeds didn't get cross-pollinated by the rest of the neighborhood I would be into trading seeds with people as well.  Seeds and spores should be freely given away to all.


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 3
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wow OK so you're an expert on irrigation.  Sounds like you've been intimately involved with the delicate water situation out here for a really really really long time.  wow.  how many decades did you do these jobs?

clearly you have nothing to learn.  no im sure youre right about everything. 

Oh was I proposing a mass extinction? Oh I'm sorry. Let me take a step back. It seems like you have it all sorted out for everyone.  Yes everyone is stupid except for you. Especially me. Stupid Egyptians.  If only they had just done all that stuff you said.. stupid sod farmers. 

it's so simple right? All everyone has to do is just do all that stuff you said, and everything is going to work out just fine. Yes I am the foolish one. Silly me how could I be so blind?  Yes we just need to tweak the system a little bit and I'm sure it will work forever and ever.  Golly.


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: BeefExtreme]
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Yeah I didn't like your set up. So I shut you down because I do have experience with irrigation I never claimed to be an expert.


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: hidingbush] * 2
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GC, the problem with irrigation is not just how the system is constructed and the PVC and such, but rather the fact that there are sod farms at all, as well as annual tillage and monocropping.  systems built for simple growth and harvesting from the rich that don't even live there to feel the sadness of the ecosystem.  Without so much fossil fuels, we wouldn't rely on tractors and terrible genetics that are dependent on these energy intensive systems.  with more hands on the ground, and trees harvesting fruits in a diverse permaculture-like system, there is more energy in labor, but it would be social and more rewarding to the ecosystem.  diverse systems of polyculture are actually more productive, if we could just get people to want to work the harvest.

you might try reading 'resoring heritage grains' (by eli rogosa) (the first part, if not the whole book) if you think that our grain harvests are good for the earth OR humans.  maybe restoration agriculture by mark shepard, or just about restoration / restorative agriculture in general  and permaculture.

we need more perennials, and hands on the ground.  We need to practice before the 'transition' away from so many fossil fuels, as we won't always have this amount.  More energy is not going to solve the problem, less energy dependence will help.  Do not wait for free energy miracles to save the world, i don't think it will.

hope this doesnt sound condescending, just a quick snippit of my passion

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Generic]
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Guys why are we talking about sod farms?
I'm talking about sustainability like actual legislation that protects our waterways and stops people from taking more than they need.

I'm talking about golf courses.


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 4
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PuffM4gicDr4gon said:
Where do y'all get your sacrificial babies from?

I usually pick mine up from Walmart, but I'm wondering if there's a more eco friendly alternative


I can't afford Walmart so I have to make my own :cryariver:


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Generic] * 2
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actually i forgot, above all the books, maybe read 'the carbon farming solution' and imagine the implications of building soil and carbon in our soil... although it focuses on carbon a little too much, and I don't agree with carbon credits and carbon being the only important thing, it teaches a lot about how soil is built, and carbon's roll in that... and what happens when soil is depleted.  Most of the systems that you think are great because they feed our people now, are just depleting the soil for future generations for an even bigger collapse of ecosystems.

https://www.chelseagreen.com/product/the-carbon-farming-solution/

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Generic]
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How about we illegalize all plastic being manufactured and used unless it is utterly essential that it cannot be recycled.

That seems like a pretty easy thing that should be done immediately.
Then we don't have to hear about micro plastics in our bones and semen anymore.


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
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i dont know why anyone tries to teach gc anything.  hes got it all figured out.  i mean.  he worked at sod farm for a couple months. 

ban plastic.  that'll fix everything.

smarten up guys


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: BeefExtreme] * 2
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Smarten up guys


I prefer to remain blissfully ignorant. I'm sure it shines through brilliantly.

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Gilmour Hendrix] * 2
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Imma gonna chomp some shrooms to recapture some bliss.


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Gilmour Hendrix] * 1
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Took 30 seconds of googling to find this article. Nothin to do with golf courses or plastic. Just sacrificing babies to ensure a bountiful harvest. One drop in an ocean of stories, most probably untold.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-017-00349-2

And for all we know, there could have been some Liberal hand-wringing over ancient sacrifices, too, finally coming back around to, "well, too bad it's our only option."

I really don't think ancient people were any dumber or more brutal than we are.

Edited by B Traven (02/24/26 05:02 PM)

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefExtreme said:
i dont know why anyone tries to teach gc anything.  hes got it all figured out.  i mean.  he worked at sod farm for a couple months. 

ban plastic.  that'll fix everything.

smarten up guys


Oh we should just burn down everything because you don't like the systems. That makes way more sense.




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Edited by GenesisCorrupted (02/25/26 03:13 AM)

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: BeefExtreme] * 3
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i think you have a good heart gc but this is a pattern ive been watching since you got here.

ive always thought you were funny but you dont really know much about anything yet have strong opinions on literally everything once you have 15 minutes or less of experience with it: pcp, irrigation, agriculture, politics, cultivation, the shroomery itself, and once your minds made up, nothing can change it.  mr. everybody-except-for-me-is-stupid. 

case and point, you work one summer for a sod farm and everyone there is stupid except for you.  maybe they dont give a fuck that the pipes break.  pvc is cheap as shit and sod sells hand over fist.  how many sod farms do you own? but no, im sure the guy who built it is stupid. .


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: BeefExtreme] * 1
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Dude I'm saying that we should keep trying. You're talking about nihilism.

I don't believe in nihilism. I have opinions on a lot of things. I never claimed to be an expert on anything.

I certainly don't expect you to try to convince me of anything. I'm just sharing my opinions. Sorry that upset you and made you demand my experience level of irrigation.
:borfase:

Stop talking about going to live in a cave if you actually are an expert in irrigation.

Don't try and pull that "I'm an old man and you're too young to understand" horse shit


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: BeefExtreme] * 3
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see thats where i get off the bus gc. 

burn everything down?  thats not what we are saying, bud.  youre not  l i s t e n i n g  because youre too preoccupied with your own opinions.  your brain isnt a tool you learn and do things with its a toy youre masturbating with and i for one, feel really lonesome when you speak because you dont actually read what we're saying despite having been here for what.. 3 years now?

brother, it IS all burning down. actively.  the discussion is about what comes next.


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: BeefExtreme] * 1
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You just said that all the systems are the problem.
:lolsy:
How is that not burning down the system?
What are you talking about?
I'm talking about trying to fix things and get stuff working again. I'm not talking about anarchy. Cause I don't believe in anarchy.
If you get sick you're not gonna be able to go to the hospital and get cured during anarchy.

Our main difference in opinions is that I think we should work with what we have and improve it. You seem to think that all of it needs to be gone.


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 7
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Dude.

You walked into a conversation where people were discussing their personal political philosophies and told them they were naive and dumb and wrong in the shortest and rudest way possible. You're kinda reaping what you sowed here.

This isn't about Nihilism. It's about seeing behind the curtain and not falling for specious arguments about "human progress" and the "need for industrialization of everything" promoted by the same classes of people that brought us colonialism, white supremacy, and late-stage capitalism. It's about dissecting the idea that "we can't support this level of human population" when every major world religion still restricts womens' reproductive rights in order to ensure that they get more soldiers and tithe-ers for their side, while the mega-rich cheer at the thought of another billion people to skim their take off of.


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: B Traven]
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The conversation was about anarchy. I disagree I don't like anarchy. Then the conversation has changed to where we are now. People claiming that I'm not an expert in agriculture and I don't understand the conversation.

The conversation was that anarchy is  unsustainable because I like systems.
Like agriculture and irrigation.

Which were only examples of how far we've come because of the systems in place.

Had nothing to do with my experience as an irrigator on a sod farm.
Somebody decided to make it a personal attack at some point.


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