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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: SuburbanHerbin] * 5
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It can be applied with a misting bottle at pretty much any point. You see 'em, you..

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: the_chosen_one] * 1
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:laugh:

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
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Sorry I was in the shower. Im still down if you are


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: SuburbanHerbin] * 3
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ive never had gnats but i used to deal with them in commercial greenhouses. along with shore flies which are way worse  but they give some people hell..

the idea is IPM (integrated pest management)

you start with environment.  adults can be killed with colde temps.  a night in the fridge would do it.  it will stall your grow but it recovers easily . i do it sometimes when i need to leave town and cant get a tub sitter

so then youve stopped the egg laying and breeding now you deal with the larvae. 

i would think using the sticky paper on the lid would really disrupt their cycle. 

i dont think eradication is ever an option.  management is the operative.  a few bugs wont really stop you from getting a good flush i wouldnt think.

Edited by BeefExtreme (12/10/25 07:21 PM)

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: the_chosen_one] * 1
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the_chosen_one said:
I'm curious too. Being it's breathable.. maybe as a filter, but a spendy filter lol.

Filters won't stop them anyways. Maybe reduce entry points but gnats will find a way. They typically sneak in under the lid where the suffocation gussets are or through unfiltered holes. I would stick with your adult gnat enforcement Gil, and do some research on BTI (Bacillus thuringiensis israelensis) also known as mosquito dunks. That will take care of the larvae within a week or two. Cycle broken.

:nodofunderstanding:



I think that if this is a consistent issue people should consider having a little diatomaceous earth mixed in when they set up their tub.

The nutritious surface they were feeding on has become a field of razors that'll slice them to ribbons if they land there.

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme]
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Not so much with cubensis. They're fast and aggressive enough to be minimally effected. Zapotecorum on the other hand is just the opposite being slow and touchy already lol. Not only are the larvae eating the tips of the myc.. they're bug piss/shitting toxins so even if you break the cycle the sub will usually trich out early. There's definitely no way of getting rid of them entirely, but their lives are short and they tend to be seasonal in most places. I don't use BTI until i see one flying or get lucky enough to see larvae. Which gets harder every year lol :nerd:

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
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GenesisCorrupted said:
the_chosen_one said:
I'm curious too. Being it's breathable.. maybe as a filter, but a spendy filter lol.

Filters won't stop them anyways. Maybe reduce entry points but gnats will find a way. They typically sneak in under the lid where the suffocation gussets are or through unfiltered holes. I would stick with your adult gnat enforcement Gil, and do some research on BTI (Bacillus thuringiensis israelensis) also known as mosquito dunks. That will take care of the larvae within a week or two. Cycle broken.

:nodofunderstanding:



I think that if this is a consistent issue people should consider having a little diatomaceous earth mixed in when they set up their tub.

The nutritious surface they were feeding on has become a field of razors that'll slice them to ribbons if they land there.




thats not  how diatomaceous earth works pard.  it works by dessicating the insect via absorption so it has to be dry.  it really works well when its suspended in the air and they breathe it and it destroys their lungs.  never was a real viable option in commercial greenhouses for that reason.  ive tried blasting it through the cooling fans and heating ducts but its too expensive to just throw around like that. 

spinosad food grade insecticide is much more effective and affordable in that sense.

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
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GenesisCorrupted said:
the_chosen_one said:
I'm curious too. Being it's breathable.. maybe as a filter, but a spendy filter lol.

Filters won't stop them anyways. Maybe reduce entry points but gnats will find a way. They typically sneak in under the lid where the suffocation gussets are or through unfiltered holes. I would stick with your adult gnat enforcement Gil, and do some research on BTI (Bacillus thuringiensis israelensis) also known as mosquito dunks. That will take care of the larvae within a week or two. Cycle broken.

:nodofunderstanding:



I think that if this is a consistent issue people should consider having a little diatomaceous earth mixed in when they set up their tub.

The nutritious surface they were feeding on has become a field of razors that'll slice them to ribbons if they land there.



Yep. Another tool in the arsenal that doesn't really effect the myc much if at all. Just make sure to wash your hands etc after using it. I rubbed an eye once. :stoned2: :lol:

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefSupremeJr said:
  it works by dessicating the insect via absorption so it has to be dry. 



I didn't know this. So my eye hurt for nothing then.. unlike hot sauce. :lol:

:themoreyouknow:

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: the_chosen_one] * 1
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yeah its just fossilized little guys with glass shell.  its real sharp.  i dont think youd want it in your eye. 

wet though, it just clumps into a paste.  ive watched it work under the dissection mic to test its efficacy on different bugs.  not real useful once its underground.  i used it for squash beetles once but again,

spinosad works a lot better on contact.

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme]
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Yeah it does kind of almost form a paste if it gets soaked. I thought if it was still spread out enough it would tear them up.

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
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not real well.  like, you can walk across a a dumpster packed full of nails barefoot.

spinosad tho... just wrecks their fuckin nervous system instantly.  love that shit.  never heard of anyone using it for gnats and i dont know why.  its basically totally non toxic.

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: mushboy] * 2
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mushboy said:
clue is probably my favorite board game and a top 10 movie for sure.

stratego and risk are the shit. i used to play a simple win95 version of risk. spent days of my life playing that. same with civilization.. TWO.

im that old.
:feelsoldman:



I remember punch card computers for some reason. Also... Atari pong. Commodore home computers. Ultima... Apple basic... OLD

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: DV8DUG]
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DV8DUG said:
mushboy said:
clue is probably my favorite board game and a top 10 movie for sure.

stratego and risk are the shit. i used to play a simple win95 version of risk. spent days of my life playing that. same with civilization.. TWO.

im that old.
:feelsoldman:



I remember punch card computers for some reason. Also... Atari pong. Commodore home computers. Ultima... Apple basic... OLD



Punch cards were a little before my time, but I remember saving and loading programs on cassette tape for my sinclair, TI-99 and C-64.


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: COgrower] * 3
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Got home today and took a look at jars I got going and it’s a fucking black explosion in 3 days. Makes me want to pitch that shit hard into a rock slab. Fuck me.


On a more interesting note here’s to Lilliputian people as revealed by an interesting shroom: Lanmaoa asiatica with no currently known psychoactive compound

https://nhmu.utah.edu/articles/experts-explore-new-mushroom-which-causes-fairytale-hallucinations


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: 1NFIN8] * 1
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yo that is black as fuck.  i wouldnt open that tbh.  jars aint a huge loss but that looks like it could roach your health.  id ask nichrome what he thinks it could be, but it looks like death mold to me

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme]
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Get me spores for those rn


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefSupremeJr said:
squash beetles





:mad2:

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefSupremeJr said:
yo that is black as fuck.  i wouldnt open that tbh.  jars aint a huge loss but that looks like it could roach your health.  id ask nichrome what he thinks it could be, but it looks like death mold to me



Those are going straight in the trash with yellow caution tape wrapping the garbage bags up. Seriously.


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You can ignore the truth to your final breath. But trust me, it will meet you there to be ignored no longer.

The answer to your question is almost always 42
“The answer is always grow more shroom.” Mr Piggy
- Those two answers coexist peacefully.

Quick Sterilization Reference for Altitude

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: 1NFIN8]
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Id leave it in the sun outside for the winter and then dump it lol


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"Remember, kids, the difference between science and screwing around is writing it down" -adam savage
Flowchart for Recommended plan of action.
Learn the tried and true way to grow mushrooms
Use the Damn search engine
After you know what you're doing, take a break 
Pick a book, Make some chips!
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