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Re: Line of Sight [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
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We must consult tratak cat. Adding wizard's weave to interpret.
:wizard::inbread:

He's pretty impenetrable. Perhaps the great frog spirit.

:wizard::pierre1:

These guys are saying nothing.


Edited by syncro (06/23/25 08:50 PM)

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Re: Line of Sight [Re: syncro]
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Did you ever post the Heron medicine?

Oh wait! FeelsGoatMan might have it!
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Re: Line of Sight [Re: syncro]
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Sorry got carried away with the smilies, was tired and giddy.:laugh:

I think we tend to defend manifestation, I do, because it is love's form, our people, beauty,... How can we know them without their individuality, and what is that without form?

"the unmanifest depends upon the manifest world" seems to contradict, "Effects do not create their cause".

Brahman, Mahamudra, depend on no manifestation. First, there was the Father; this is always. A counter perspective. But as said, without progeny there is no father.

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Re: Line of Sight [Re: syncro]
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Each one is the mind of the all, so depends on no body, but that is lila.

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Re: Line of Sight [Re: syncro]
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syncro said:
We must consult tratak cat. Adding wizard's weave to interpret.
:wizard::inbread:

He's pretty impenetrable. Perhaps the great frog spirit.

:wizard::pierre1:

These guys are saying nothing.





Lol!

:wizard::carlton:

That should do it

:holewobble:


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Re: Line of Sight [Re: syncro]
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syncro said:
Sorry got carried away with the smilies, was tired and giddy.:laugh:

I think we tend to defend manifestation, I do, because it is love's form, our people, beauty,... How can we know them without their individuality, and what is that without form?

"the unmanifest depends upon the manifest world" seems to contradict, "Effects do not create their cause".

Brahman, Mahamudra, depend on no manifestation. First, there was the Father; this is always. A counter perspective. But as said, without progeny there is no father.



But can the “creator” aspect be removed from Brahman?


If “manifestation” is a limitless body, then I see no contradictions.

Also… what is a Father without a Mother?


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Re: Line of Sight [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
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:wizard::carlton: Carlton seems to know for sure. :lol:

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Re: Line of Sight [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
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Blue Cthulhu said:
But can the “creator” aspect be removed from Brahman?

Also… what is a Father without a Mother?



So without an endless loop, there must be an absolute cause, one without cause.

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If “manifestation” is a limitless body, then I see no contradictions.




I like this. In wholeness it seems stillness does not contradict movement, nor distinction between manifest and unmanifest.

Why? Because we got what we want-ananda! Mukti.

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It gives me an image of a vast structure, with infinite facets that can blink with various lights and colors. It could all blink the same color, and in that moment be perfectly still, without distinctions, the Pure Mind of total synchronization. And in another moment, it could blink in a dazzling array of variety, all kinds of color without limit to their novelty. But it would still be One Structure, and even the endless varieties would still derive from the basic Om or Fundamental Waveform and therefore would be both different and not different from one another, simultaneously.

And that One Vast Structure is also a single point of view. It is the One Consciousness, as You or Me or Someone Else, experiencing itself in the Now, including seeing reflections of itself (Blue Heron medicine) through the various people, forms, and entities it is looking at.

An analogy would be, imagine you could go back in time and visit your previous incarnation, and have a conversation with that version of yourself. You would be both the same and different, simultaneously. And that’s what we are doing all the time, as parts of the Infinite Family, sharing the same Father (consciousness seed) and Mother (great womb void)


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Re: Line of Sight [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
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The Heron is a hard one. Like the Turkey, first look kind of no one (in me) wanted to talk about it. Who wants to be a turkey, food for other bodies to carry on? It goes to the inversion where giving is losing. Spiritually speaking it's very good as anything dharmic is giving and having completely, extending.

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Re: Line of Sight [Re: syncro]
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Interesting interpretation of the turkey. Very Christ-like -
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And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me.”




But yes, the indigenous worldview is SO radical compared to the modern, civilized worldview. From the book Restoring the Kinship Worldview:


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Generosity as Way of Life
Martin Brokenleg (Lakota)

We were taught much about generosity in my Lakota society because it was so molded into our social system. For example, if you were visiting someone and you openly admired a possession of theirs, they would probably give it to you. Giving in this way would make them happy. Of course, real giving entails sacrifice — if it doesn't cost you some-thing, it is not generosity. Thus, if I were to give away that necktie that Aunt Mildred gave me last Christmas— the one that I was never going to wear in public—it would not be generosity, it would be recycling!

In many tribal cultures, giving away possessions is part of an entire way of life— one that creates powerful social bonds. Young children learn that it is not always easy to give things away. The Lakota say one should be able to give away anything "without the heart pounding."

Unfortunately, not many examples of such total generosity exist in our largely materialistic Western culture because of a preoccupation with acquiring possessions. This stockpiling of stuff is related to individualistic thinking, excessive materialism and conspicuous consumption-the cultural thinking error that flaunting wealth is a testimony of a person's worth. We should not make a show of generosity and recipients do not have to fawn in obeisance. Sharing is just what relatives do.

Generosity comes in many forms. To be patient, to listen, to share a smile, a joke or even a tear are powerful gifts. An apology to one we have offended can be a form of generosity, because it puts one in a position of humility. Even more powerful is the generosity of forgiveness extended to those who have hurt us.... As we see in our Circle of Courage work, the highest expression of courage is generosity, such as when children learn to show compassion for others and to give a higher priority to relationships rather than possessions. Unfortunately, such altruism is contradicted by cultural traditions of dominance, exploitation and selfish materialism.




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Re: Line of Sight [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
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I really like this ACIM passage. Our thoughts are eternal. They only seem to come and go. And they only seem to be separate. Is this Shiva’s work? Ajna chakra sees/knows


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6. Nothing that God knows not exists. ²And what He knows exists forever, changelessly. ³For thoughts endure as long as does the mind that thought of them. ⁴And in the Mind of God there is no ending, nor a time in which His Thoughts were absent or could suffer change. ⁵Thoughts are not born and cannot die. ⁶They share the attributes of their creator, nor have they a separate life apart from his. ⁷The thoughts you think are in your mind, as you are in the Mind which thought of you. ⁸And so there are no separate parts in what exists within God’s Mind. ⁹It is forever One, eternally united and at peace.

7. Thoughts seem to come and go. ²Yet all this means is that you are sometimes aware of them, and sometimes not. ³An unremembered thought is born again to you when it returns to your awareness. ⁴Yet it did not die when you forgot it. ⁵It was always there, but you were unaware of it. ⁶The Thought God holds of you is perfectly unchanged by your forgetting. ⁷It will always be exactly as it was before the time when you forgot, and will be just the same when you remember. ⁸And it is the same within the interval when you forgot.

8. The Thoughts of God are far beyond all change, and shine forever. ²They await not birth. ³They wait for welcome and remembering. ⁴The Thought God holds of you is like a star, unchangeable in an eternal sky. ⁵So high in Heaven is it set that those outside of Heaven know not it is there. ⁶Yet still and white and lovely will it shine through all eternity. ⁷There was no time it was not there; no instant when its light grew dimmer or less perfect ever was. (https://acim.org/acim/en/s/336#6:1-8:7 | T-30.III.6:1–8:7)




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Re: Line of Sight [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
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Excellent, and the Ajna "like a star, unchangeable in an eternal sky." The quote reminds of the Stream up there somewhere always, above the clouds of the mind, touched if only acknowledged, asked, the heavens eager.

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Re: Line of Sight [Re: syncro]
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I was reading in ACIM yesterday I think, that what we do, I take implied meeting the curriculum, will lessen time by 1000 years, and this I assume means the whole thing here, Earth. Throughout the text is the Sonship is not complete without you, so it must mean the world soul, this mission, ours.

Elsewhere was dialogue that this right mind adds, in my words, presence to the answering given to beings when they turn, or more particularly in the passage, as when they die and are given substance.

But interesting is that the world soul is already complete, as Mahapurusha, etc.

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Re: Line of Sight [Re: syncro]
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Quote:
Be vigilant only for God and His kingdom.



And:

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To teach the whole Sonship without exception demonstrates that you perceive its wholeness, and have learned that it is one. ²Now you must be vigilant to hold its oneness in your mind because, if you let doubt enter, you will lose awareness of its wholeness and will be unable to teach it. ³The wholeness of the Kingdom does not depend on your perception, but your awareness of its wholeness does. ⁴It is only your awareness that needs protection, since being cannot be assailed. ⁵Yet a real sense of being cannot be yours while you are doubtful of what you are. ⁶This is why vigilance is essential. ⁷Doubts about being must not enter your mind, or you cannot know what you are with certainty. ⁸Certainty is of God for you. ⁹Vigilance is not necessary for truth, but it is necessary against illusions. (https://acim.org/acim/en/s/105#1:1-8:9 | T-6.V-C.1:1–8:9)




This passage is really speaking to me right now. Vigilance against those doubts that want to pull one back into a state of fear and acquiescence to the world’s dogmas (a whole system based on fear, guilt, separation, precariousness of the body, etc).

The higher vibratory field is one of Unity, without conflict or blame. Residing here, vigilance is perfected into Total Awareness
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Re: Line of Sight [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
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I recalled in the text and have been trying to write about it, that what we want is what we are truly, and doubt is presumption about our fellows. All want it and with that acknowledgement, where are obstacles?

Intriguing that the obstacle is projection on others, largely hidden; more so, that the acknowledgement is sufficient to open.

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Re: Line of Sight [Re: syncro]
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Maybe the Obstacle is actually the Door in Disguise


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Re: Line of Sight [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
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Yes they occupy the same space, the misdirection glimpsed with the solution; say there is constriction in the body; bringing the thought that others' truth is aligned, the constriction is released, the cause otherwise hidden.

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A boa constriction


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