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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Generic] * 1
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I always dry chips for at least a week or two. Just let them die off (especially with willow, it will sprout from the teeniest piece of wood with some live cambium still in place, if you let it). I only use freshly chipped for refeeding of existing beds. But you could as well feed vigorous beds whatever.
Just my 2c as an arborist


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: schmutzen]
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schmutzen said:
Wood dowels only work on freshly cut logs, you've missed the window by a long shot.  I did CoTW to Oak logs totem method a couple years ago and nothing yet.  I was thinking about making a small slice into an oak (not during wilt season) and adding agar or maybe scratching the roots a little bit and adding agar... back on topic

Cyans, azzies and ovoids could survive, probably a lot of others too.  Azzies being the more fickle of those for most people.


Good to know., thanks man! Thankfully there are private forests and no shortage of fresh fallen trees.

Still, wood dowels would mostly be for more aggressive gourmet mushrooms vs actives, right? 

For actives, a patch with wood chips seems to be the recommendation. No shortage of places where I could make a trove.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Huskies] * 1
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Yeah, wood dowels for gourmets and woodchips for actives.  There doesn't seem to be a lot of actives that grow on logs.  When I made the CoTW totem logs I also did shitake, HoTW and Gyms.  Still nothing to report.  I used 12" diameter so it could be a few more years... if it even works at all.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: schmutzen] * 1
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makes sense to dry chips if they're fresh; especially for willow since they're literally still alive and ready to sprout when kept wet.

turns out 9 months ago i had a confused discussion with stipe-n and he checked out of the conversation.  I was referring to letting the tree branches age after they were cut, and he was referring to letting chips dry for a couple of weeks after being chipped.  now i'm seeing that when wet wood is cut we don't want to use the fresh wood as it's still alive, and if we dry the chips, then it dies and becomes usable for psilocybes.

@schmutzen - i was talking about the use of fresh maple.  key word being fresh, not maple.  maple is fine, but fresh is not ideal.  think you got the wrong idea there.  i'm talking about the aging process and letting the wood die.

@churple, stipe, anyone else....  how do you let fresh wood chips dry/die?  spread them thin in the sun would be my guess.  in my experience, chips must be layed very thin for fungus to not start colonizing them.  if they're laid on soil/grass, things can grow into them from below.  I wish i had more concrete slabs to dry a bunch on in thin layers.  also i'm pressed for time as i'm leaving soon so i must find a balance of how to dry effectively, and when to decide to use this fresh willow.

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Mellowyello] * 2
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Yeah, sounds good! The Caeruleorhiza and Allenii bed spawning will be later because they are still colonizing the bags, but the Azure and Cyan beds are ready and I will make a thread about them within the next few days, then update it when the other two are ready as well! :grin:

Look out for it in this thread!


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: cybesa] * 3
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You block someone's avatar because there's too much color and noise, block their signature because there's too much color and noise, and then they start using color gradient in their texts and the only option left...


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Mr Piggy] * 1
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... is to be even more colorful and noisy than they are to drown 'em out?


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: schmutzen] * 2
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You have successfully nailed it with that right there answer, my dear good old matey' buddy'o friend! :wink::lol::mushroom2:


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Edited by cybesa (04/24/25 01:05 PM)

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Generic]
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I just spread them on tiles or concrete. They don't mold that fast, but if you pile them up, they will start fermenting very fast. I've chipped stuff that was steaming two days later, and had a very high core temperature.
If you lay them on soil, yes, I can imagine they might get colonized very fast. By existing mycelia. But exposed chips, in sun and wind, never found any serious mycelium in that after a week or two. Unless the trees were already colonized. But if it was crown dieback in willow (Brenneria salicis), you're very unlikely to also have serious fungal infections, as it's an aggressive type of bacteria.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: cybesa]
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so i can buy more wood chips, since it's cloudy/raining the next 3 days and i don't have enough time to let these dry...

another chip person finally replied to me and said he can grab a dump load from a section of a pile that's been chipped within the last 2 weeks.  even though it's probably a big deep pile with fungus and maybe has a hot center... i don't have many options. 

If i get another load of chips free from an arborist wanting to dump a load, that would also be freshly chipped and would need to be dried aged...  willow isn't any different i guess, anything fresh from the chipper is too fresh...

i'm thinking I might try my luck with this $150 for 10 yards load of whatever thats been chipped within the last 2 weeks.

am i being too picky?  i have a pile that's too old and fungusy ,and this willow pile that may be too fresh...  I could lay it out on concrete and tarp it if it rains, but i could only give it a week like that.  I think i put myself in a pickle with having to leave by next weekend. 


thanks for the feedback churpee

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: cybesa] * 1
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cybesa said:
You have successfully nailed it with that right there answer, my dear good old matey' buddy'o friend! :wink::lol::mushroom2:


Bye cybesa, my eyes are tired of it.


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"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Generic] * 1
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Yeah just use it, don't overthink it.

I only said that's how I do it, but I just bring a bigshopper, dry it, use it up, bring another one etc. I can be picky because tomorrow brings new chips.

The totally molded over / colonized chips you showed a while ago, I wouldn't use those. But if the new ones get flushed by the rain, why not. Flush out those surface sugars


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Churpee Choozle]
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ok thanks for the input again,  i need to just make the patches already.

but now i'm conflicted and overthinking things again ,but ive never read about flushing out sugars from chips.  I can most easily do that by running a sprinkler over the chips for however long i want; i doubt very much rain is coming, just enough to make drying chips out difficult.  Is that because they're fresh, and instead of drying out the chips i should flush them?

and what is a bigshopper?

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Generic]
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Don't trip, dawg!
A big shopper is a large grocery bag. And I was speaking tongue in cheek. Look, with most stuff we use you don't want it to be too fresh. Like with aged manure. The same goes for chips. You chop something open and expose the inside, and it's really nutritious. You want that to cool down a little, so to speak. A lot of people here ferment their chips, for example. Use up the short-chain carbs that could fuel competition. Choke off whatever found a niche. I like to weather my chips a little. Once they're dry, they're basically inert and I don't have to worry about gnats or molds or whatever. They don't have the moisture to support anything until I use them. Bacteria use up some readily available stuff that I'd rather not see turning into mold.
But if it rains, that's ok too. Just don't allow them to go thermophilic in a pile, or get totally colonized by competition.

Long story. The question is: how far is your spawn? If you use up what you have in a reasonable time, competition won't have a chance anyway


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 2
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If your spawn is good, fresh chips work. Go heavy on spawn at first is my opinion. Willow? No opinion.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Generic]
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Generic said:
am i being too picky?  i have a pile that's too old and fungusy ,and this willow pile that may be too fresh...  I could lay it out on concrete and tarp it if it rains, but i could only give it a week like that.  I think i put myself in a pickle with having to leave by next weekend. 



It's good to be picky, but IMO the willow sounds ace and likey your best option.  One week will have to be sufficient.  Do you have a barn fan or an ag rental place?  I'd bet healthy spawn will tear through that willow in no time and you'll be able to add some choice hardwood later this summer.

Would you repost that literal wall of spawn pic?  That was epic. :grin:


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: TheDuder] * 1
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Besides, if it doesn't take just treat your spawn like a russian conscript and send more in.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Mr Piggy] * 1
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Am I doing too much mixing the hardwood mulch, chips, and coir with spawn to top off these pots?  And all I've done is soak the chips and mulch for a few hours, should I be boiling these or letting them ferment?  Is fermenting mostly suggested for beds?  Thank you in advance for any direction here.  I don't know why wood lovers have been such a hurdle for me, but these couple jars look promising, Ps cyans.

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: stagger]
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stagger said:
Am I doing too much mixing the hardwood mulch, chips, and coir with spawn to top off these pots?  And all I've done is soak the chips and mulch for a few hours, should I be boiling these or letting them ferment?  Is fermenting mostly suggested for beds?  Thank you in advance for any direction here.  I don't know why wood lovers have been such a hurdle for me, but these couple jars look promising, Ps cyans.



Soaking chips for just a few hours may be too short to have them all moisturised in the centre. Yes fermenting chips is a good idea for woodlover beds.


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