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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Mr Piggy]
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new spawn once nutes are gone?, i'm very new to cultivating outdoors. p much know next to nothing.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: syllable] * 2
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Pick fruits, throw on another layer of chips, repeat in perpetuity.

Grab chunks of myc from first patch, make several more patches, repeat in perpetuity.

At some point I just stopped working WL cultures on plates and started shuffling chunks of myc from one place to another.  After a while it can be easy to lose track of species and most of them become caramel caps.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Mr Piggy] * 2
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My cyanescens cultures turned a little bit more yellowish at the bottom of the jars.
Do you think they’re bacterial or is it just metabolites due to overcolonization / stress?
Not sure if the LC was completely clean.
Nethertheless i decided to use the jars to inoculate woodchips.




The other cultures in plastic jars show a lot of yellow drops.
I will watch them a few more weeks, but i think they’re contaminated.
Will do some better LC in the next weeks and try to get it cleaner.




The alder woodchips have been soaked with tap water for about 48 hours.
I let them drain on a clean towel for about one hour.
Kept the excess water for further experiments with LC and for keeping the outdoor cultures wet.
The grain from the glas jars and the soaked woodchips were mixed in buckets.
Ratio 1 part of grain to 3 parts of woodchips.
The flower pots were filled half way up with soil.
Then the mixture of grain and woodchips was added on top. (4 inches)
They are outside on my balcony now for further colonization.
I think i will cover the pots with a mesh of wire so birds cannot pick the grain berries.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Mr Piggy] * 1
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Mr Piggy said:
Pick fruits, throw on another layer of chips, repeat in perpetuity.

Grab chunks of myc from first patch, make several more patches, repeat in perpetuity.

At some point I just stopped working WL cultures on plates and started shuffling chunks of myc from one place to another.  After a while it can be easy to lose track of species and most of them become caramel caps.


Plus one. I stopped taking prints or keeping agar cultures. But now that people ask me for wl cultures, I feel bad about that, because whatever I had was gone in two weeks and I can't share with the community.

I make drawings of the places where I cluster my beds, otherwise I wouldn't have a clue who is an azure and who a cyan, or I'd have to guesstimate by sporocarp size, but that's really hit or miss in most cases


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 2
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feeling unsure of using the only wood chips I have right now.  Here's what the chips look like: chipped this winter.  Mix of fir, cedar, madrone, & maple.  The inside of the pile has visible mycelium; that's what's pictured in the close-ups


the outside of the pile seems better, should I just scrape the outer layer off and use that?

edit^^ above is the whole pile, with the center pulled out to look at the fungus activity.
Below is what the outer layer looks like (left) and the top inch or so scraped away(right, darker shows what is just below the surface)


Meanwhile, lots are ready, but i don't want to put my babies out into a hostile environment.


Or should I just go buy new wood chips and see if they're any better?

Edited by Generic (04/14/25 11:56 AM)

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Generic] * 1
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Guys what is the viability of tearing a good chunk of outdoors mycelium and relocating to new food/spot? Lets say you have some cyan on wood cased, and you rip out a good chunk and case it il new food elsewhere


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: smalltalk_canceled] * 4
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You mean the thing we all describe doing on a regular and ongoing basis in there, like we just described a few posts above this?

Fairly high success rate.  Not sure what you mean by "case"

Take myc chunk, stuff in new chip bed, walk away, profit?


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Mr Piggy]
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What woodlovers would fruit in Quebec during summer in an outdoor patch?


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Huskies]
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Yo mama.

Uhh, summer time?  Ovoids in spring maybe?  Gyms?


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Huskies]
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And maybe niveos.
Us some fabric pots and just bring them inside in the winter

Why does it have to be summer time?

Edited by PhenoDreamers (04/14/25 01:23 PM)

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: PhenoDreamers]
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I guess it doesn’t, spring works, we still had snow last week though. Wouldn’t be surprised with another snowfall.

Also, Aint got the genes yet, but curious to try


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Huskies]
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Yes but, why does it have to be summer or spring time?


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Generic] * 1
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You could ferment some. Anaerobic conditions  should kill off whatever else you have living in there. In theory at least.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Generic] * 2
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I never tried with chips that colonized by another species, so take this with a grain of salt, but I wouldn't use that. Cyans tend to overrun competitor molds, but that looks, parts of that look, like established mycelium of higher fungi. Depending on species they might well defend themselves, and / or have been detrimental to the nutritional value of the chips (in case you pasteurize or otherwise kill off the current inhabitants).


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Huskies]
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I think more so what you're probably wondering is what could fruit in your hardiness zone and survive the frost? What is your zone?

Edited by PhenoDreamers (04/14/25 06:00 PM)

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: PhenoDreamers]
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^ it's a 6a


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Huskies] * 1
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Huskies said:
^ it's a 6a


I think woodlovers would survive 6a no problem.  My azzies survived being frozen at around 0F for a few nights, and survived sustained freezing temperatures.

Even if nothing would survive your winter I think a fall fruiter would be a better idea.  If you spent all winter cleaning up say a cyan print on agar, put it to grain, used the grain as a master to make chip spawn, then spawned to an outdoor bed directly after last frost it would have all spring and summer to colonize and get ready to fruit in the fall.

If you tried to do this with a spring or summer fruiter it would have significantly less time to colonize it’s patch and would be less likely to fruit.

Either way I think it’s still a moot point since I believe an azzie bed insulated with leaves after it fruits and is rechipped would survive a 6a winter.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Mr Piggy] * 5
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Cyans, zone 4.  I spawned in spring and they didn't fruit until the following fall.

Psilocybe caerulescens fruits in summer.

I would definitely not use those chips.  I usually don't have that much spawn though and can be picky about what I get, filling up a truck bed.  What did you pay for those?  Most tree companies will dump for free. I definitely wouldn't risk all that time and energy you put into those.  Now is not the time to cut corners.

#freshchips


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: schmutzen] * 2
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Thanks for the replies about the chips.  I don't want to cut corners now.  I didn't pay for the chips; they were dumped after I asked the company trimming trees around the power lines to dump them for me. 
Living rural it can be a miracle to get a load of free wood chips dumped, because it's out of the way for them.

I did get a more recent pile of predominantly cottonwood dumped at another location, and I even took almost half of a truckload and spread it thin (2-5 inches) on concrete, hoping it would dry out quickly and not colonize, because a big pile with a hot center quickly goes to shit....  but even that pile has visible mycelium, I guess I should have spread it even thinner for that to work.  It didn't have a bacterial hot center like most piles left unattended, but alas, many fungi love a 4-inch thick layer of wood chips, of course.

I've called so many companies asking for chips they're tired of me, yet I still neeeed them, they don't understand.

I think this is what they call woodlovers' paralysis.  Cant go on with life until I get #freshchips

I really want a woodchipper right now. 

I suppose I could boil the chips, but that's a lot of time.  Or ferment, but that seems like a gamble i'd rather not take.  Maybe I should experiment with a little bit of fermented chips, to know for the future.

It seems like sourcing good chips at the right time is the hardest thing to control without a wood chipper.

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Also, just as my largest patch of cyans was looking great from last year, even though it didn't fruit it was looking 100% colonized:  then this white slime mold came around and moved into a portion of the bed, maybe 1/3 of the bed.  Finally things dried out and it stopped growing, but here's what their fertile parts look like.

Edited by Generic (04/14/25 10:10 PM)

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Generic]
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Sorry for your loss.

Slime mold

:stanhopefacepalm:

Fascinating but I would remove it ASAP if you haven't already.


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