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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: psychedelicmind] * 2
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Yeah those do look a bit more powdery than the usual cyan myc, but sometimes it'll grow like that on agar and then turn more rope-y once it's on wood chips. Most of those plates look ok enough to put on grain and then wood chips and try them out. Once you get a nice cluster of fruits you can clone them and then the next year's batch will be more consistent.
Oak and beech are fine AFAIK.
Patches made in the earth tend to produce more fruits in the long term but they often take longer to fruit than flower pots or planters.
Since it's already getting close to spring, a combination of pots and a couple of in-ground beds is a good idea.
I've had the best luck with flower pots the first year.
I think it's because they don't usually fruit until they're completely colonized all their food.
It makes sense on an intuitive level, since they have no reason to put their energy into making mushrooms if they still have more food to eat.
Fruiting is their response to running out of food. It's basically how they move to a new place when they've eaten everything where they are. So that's why flower pots or buckets or whatever containers are more likely to fruit the first year.
I've also had better luck putting my in-ground beds in an area that's mostly rocks or gravel and not much actual soil. Or lining the patches with rocks or gravel. Because they hit the gravel and stop there. In soil that has any kind of wood/grass/cellulose type stuff in it they may "think" that there's more food out there and keep growing mycelium instead of fruits.

I hope this helps, best of luck.

Edited by Digit (02/26/25 09:58 PM)

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Digit] * 6
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Had a bit of a thaw this week, went to check on my outdoor planters...



Native caerulipes starting to wake up - need to seriously feed this spring, beech broke down super fast over this past year.  Thinking on doing more chunks than chips.



My locally found baeocystis culture is already off and running, nom-noming composted pine chips and straw just beneath the surface.

*Fingers crossed* that this is the year for these planters...


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Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.  - J.R.R. Tolkien

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Carnonos]
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Wow that's really cool.
There's not a lot of baeocystis out there. I've only found one in 30 years of looking for them.
I wish I'd cloned it.
If you want to trade a print for a subsecotiodes swab LMK. I live in an ideal climate for them.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Digit]
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Digit said:
Yeah those do look a bit more powdery than the usual cyan myc, but sometimes it'll grow like that on agar and then turn more rope-y once it's on wood chips. Most of those plates look ok enough to put on grain and then wood chips and try them out. Once you get a nice cluster of fruits you can clone them and then the next year's batch will be more consistent.
Oak and beech are fine AFAIK.
Patches made in the earth tend to produce more fruits in the long term but they often take longer to fruit than flower pots or planters.
Since it's already getting close to spring, a combination of pots and a couple of in-ground beds is a good idea.
I've had the best luck with flower pots the first year.
I think it's because they don't usually fruit until they're completely colonized all their food.
It makes sense on an intuitive level, since they have no reason to put their energy into making mushrooms if they still have more food to eat.
Fruiting is their response to running out of food. It's basically how they move to a new place when they've eaten everything where they are. So that's why flower pots or buckets or whatever containers are more likely to fruit the first year.
I've also had better luck putting my in-ground beds in an area that's mostly rocks or gravel and not much actual soil. Or lining the patches with rocks or gravel. Because they hit the gravel and stop there. In soil that has any kind of wood/grass/cellulose type stuff in it they may "think" that there's more food out there and keep growing mycelium instead of fruits.

I hope this helps, best of luck.



Thank you for all those helpful information, Digit.
I'm gonna go both ways, some pots on my balcony and some outdoor beds lined with rocks.
I feel relieved that some of the plates look okay enough to put on grain.
Also made some LC but i think it's comtamniated.
Put some drops on a fresh petri dish to test it but it looks kind of milky/slimy, although there is also some myc growing. It was my first attempt to make LC.
Will post pictures of my further experiments soon.

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: psychedelicmind]
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Try losing the peptone and cutting back 2 points of malt on next plates.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Carnonos] * 2
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sweet, I should go check my caerulipes planter, ovoid patch was looking good when I checked today.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Blufuut180] * 4
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There is no relationship between rhododendron and cyans.  Rhododendrons are just a commonly used landscaping plant in the artificial landscaping environment that cyans prefer.  Since they are a sparse plant that grows higher than the rest of the shrubs around them, it is easy to spot cyans under them in landscaping. 

Thanks Stamets, for yet another enduring falsehood.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Mr Piggy] * 6
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l

An animal has been digging up some cyanescen grain in a few spots.  not sweating it though.  It’s cool to see how the substrate is chugging along already.  You can see in the first pic how well it leapt off the grain. Spawned this bed a month ago


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Edited by Psicomb (02/28/25 06:26 PM)

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Psicomb]
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Quick question for those in the know...

I know some species prefer certain woods to grow on - my caerulipes and gyms primarily grow on beech around here, my local ovoids don't seem to be picky by comparison...

Going to be putting a few new cultures to chips in a couple weeks and wondering if azures, cyans, and caeruleorhiza have specific woods they prefer or they're fine on whatever like ovoids.


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All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.  - J.R.R. Tolkien

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Carnonos] * 11
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:awedance::awedance: omg i left for a month. Put ovoid pot from 72F back to basement 60F and sprayed before leaving

Now i got a chubby ovoid pin in cellar
:awedance::awedance::wooyeah:
Longggggg time waiting this

Its on scotts brown mulch too.
Yay

Oh shit I see two pins when zoom into pic here
Fukkkk yes


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Edited by rhizoRider (03/01/25 07:57 PM)

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: rhizoRider] * 7
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First grain to wood chips seems to be going well



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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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I'm picking up my woodchips Monday. How long do you guys soak kiln dried wood? I think I did it like 2 weeks last year, but I'm not sure if they need that much.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon]
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2 weeks for fermentation is the norm, right? I guess im also asking since I’ve never actually done it. On my small small scale I’m boiling to hydrate and then PCing.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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My chips colonized reasonably fast last year after the 2 week soak. I sterilized in bags and mixed with grain spawn.

Going big this year. I have like 10 quarts of Azure grain spawn, and I'm getting like 50lbs of smoker woodchips. Probably won't sterilize all 50, but I'm also working on Ps Cyan. Spores came in late so it's only on agar right now. Luckily, I can't plant anything until late May anyways so I still have some time.

Im thinking I'm going to go with 1:1:1 Wood Spawn, Beech Shavings, and coir. Gonna make giant patches and try my best to keep the patch alive through the Alberta winter.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 3
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2 weeks is good, but why in thw love of god are Y'all sterilizing chips for outdoor beds. Honestly, just try hwfp spawn, you'll thank me.

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
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Stipe-n Cap said:
2 weeks is good, but why in thw love of god are Y'all sterilizing chips for outdoor beds. Honestly, just try hwfp spawn, you'll thank me.



I've already purchased the chips, plus it's what worked for me last year. HWFP is definitely interesting to me, i might try it with the cyans.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
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Stipe-n Cap said:
2 weeks is good, but why in thw love of god are Y'all sterilizing chips for outdoor beds. Honestly, just try hwfp spawn, you'll thank me.


I’m having trouble sourcing HWFP here that don’t have post oak added, and I already had hickory chips on hand. If these colonize fast enough I’m probably going to use them for an indoor tub anyway for shits and giggles.

But yeah man I’d be using HWFP if I had them. They’re all species + oak here for some reason. I do have 3 gallons of Douglas fir sawdust I’m planning on using. Already using, actually, and the myc is absolutely tearing into it.

HWFP are the way to go. I’m just having fun fucking around.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Hwfp means what? Excuse me im old lol 😆


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: rhizoRider]
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Hardwood fuel pellets. Sold for smoking meat ❤️


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The 7 Edicts of Mushroom Cultivation as Decreed by Smellyhobbit

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
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Stipe-n Cap said:
2 weeks is good, but why in thw love of god are Y'all sterilizing chips for outdoor beds. Honestly, just try hwfp spawn, you'll thank me.


What are your thoughts on grain-based spawn vs hwfp in terms of yield and performance of flushes?  I assume it’s probably fairly similar but I’ve heard people who are all into da sciencez or whatever say things like nitrogen (which is way more concentrated in grain) is pretty essential for getting fat flushes. 

I’d love to hear your thoughts because I dunno much about how woodlovers work in that regard.  However, I reflect on how supplemented sawdust outperforms unsupp. sawdust / how if you spawn a monotub of cubes with 1qt spawn vs 4qt spawn the yields will be noticeably different.


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