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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Ice Nine] * 3
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Ice9 said:
  .... cutting a cucumber, would you really refer to sliced cucumbers as a "processed food"?




According to the fda/usda it is. You can sell a cucumber straight off the plant. But if you want to sell cucumber slices, the slicing needs to happen in an inspected/approved kitchen.:shrug:

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: thealienthatategod] * 2
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Lots of things exist naturally that both can enter the human brain and that are extraordinarily toxic.  Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you are trying to imply about the vaccine being man made and the aluminum adjuvant being able to enter the brain :shrug:
None of that changes the fact that the aluminum adjuvants have favorable safety profiles. 
It seems to me you are setting the bar at pharmaceuticals causing 0 harm ever to be called safe.


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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: foragedfungus]
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foragedfungus said:
Ice9 said:
  .... cutting a cucumber, would you really refer to sliced cucumbers as a "processed food"?




According to the fda/usda it is. You can sell a cucumber straight off the plant. But if you want to sell cucumber slices, the slicing needs to happen in an inspected/approved kitchen.:shrug:



:themoreyouknow:


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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Ice Nine]
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Yeah at least with food slicing is processed, so is chewing


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For most of the normies out there, an operating system is just a bootloader for Google Chrome.

And I don't know what the mantis is praying for
But he's probably just thanking the Lord
That he don't live in a home
And he don't got a phone
And he don't sit around all angry and bored
(He's just a bug)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods] * 3
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in gardasil trials, mereck made a controversial placebo, which had amorphous aluminum hydrophosphate sulfate in it, this is an aluminum adjuvant.  it is a neurotoxin



koods said:
Good lord small amounts of aluminum are completely nontoxic. Aluminum is ubiquitous in our environment and life on earth has evolved to handle quite large amounts without any problem.



Young South American girls were videoed, convulsing, on taking the Gardasil jab. Maybe, this Russian Roulette happens by zip code. idk


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: thealienthatategod] * 1
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thealienthatategod said:
the medical establishment would like you to believe that in order to fight disease, you need their pharmacological drugs such as vaccines.  optimal health is not manufactured in a laboratory!  of course, those pushing a trans-humanist agenda would like to have you believe this.



Maybe that's your interpretation of it but my question was about what promises have been made. What they would like you to believe is not quite the same as a promise. You need to rein in your language use to be less emotional and to be more precise.

We've been through this before but I will repeat it. Human lifespans have been increasing for the sole reason that medical sciences and their interventions have been effective. If you were to aim for optimal health with a totally natural approach you might be lucky to reach 40-50 years of age.

thealienthatategod said:
covid-19 has put a spotlight on how medical organizations attack anyone who questions the narrative about the effectiveness of vaccines or other pharmaceutical manufactured medicines.



And critics also attack the same medical organizations so it is not a one way street. In a democracy it is healthy that there is debate and dissent.

thealienthatategod said:
humans have been poisoning themselves, and have been poisoned for a long time.  the energy imprint of a viral infection is carried as a vibrational pattern.  if the body's cell wall structure is weak, covid-19 can quickly exploit the weakness and overrun the body's defenses.  the sky started to fall decades ago.  there is no healthy environment for future generations, because the evidence that there is an urgent autoimmune epidemic has been misunderstood, ignored, disregarded, and/or hidden.



Some of this I can agree with, yes we have been poisoning ourselves for a long time because we have trashed our planet. Our food, water and air are contaminated by lots of things including radioactivity from all the nuclear mishaps, there's microplastics in our deepest oceans and most remote uninhabited regions etc. Our planet is facing ecological collapse.

Not sure about "the energy imprint of a viral infection is carried as a vibrational pattern" though, that sounds like quackery.

thealienthatategod said:
every individual needs to be responsible for their own health.  every individual needs to do their best to choose a lifestyle where they avoid exposure to toxic substances.  this means leading a lifestyle where one can be mindful of avoiding the chemical toxins that are in industrial chemicals that are used in manufacturing, this means avoiding genetically modified foods, this means eating a diet that consists of whole real foods, this means getting enough exercise, this means knowing where your water is coming from and what is in it, as well as exercising your mental and spiritual health.  it's a lot of responsibility!  your job, not someone elses!



Yes agreed. It would be nice too if very individual were better educated especially in STEM subjects so as to avoid falling for conspiracy theories and alarmist propaganda.

thealienthatategod said:
what is illegal, is the unacknowledged financial motives.  what is illegal, is not being forward about publishing negative data.  it’s an ecosystem that gets rich off you being ill, and the medical establishment will have you believe that using any modality outside of their accepted mainstream medical dogma is absolute quackery, bc it does not put money into their pockets!



Well if there's anything illegal then let the lawsuits take down the cowboys.

Also sometimes modalities outside of the mainstream medical dogma are indeed quackery. Have you heard of cases where patients have died because they avoided conventional medicine and instead took a herbal concoction or some other such thing in the hope of a cure?

thealienthatategod said:
pain is not just pain, it is the body’s early warning system.




Pain is just pain. If you scratch yourself on a thorn from a rose bush you will feel pain. A sharp needle pushed into your muscle will also be painful!

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Warrk] * 4
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/03/23/ignaz-semmelweis-handwashing-coronavirus/

Handwashing pioneer, Ignaz Semmelweis, died in an insane asylum because of his quackery.

Does sound work, or not.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Ice Nine] * 2
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do you feel differently about something that enters your body naturally and acidentally and harms you, versus something that enters your body by your own choice that was man-made and harms you?

vaccinations are human interference with the natural course of disease, and this interference may significantly dampen immune response.  this is why i believe there are grounds for questioning both the safety and efficacy of all vaccination programs.  no amount of harm is acceptable, bc it is all unnecessary.

the primary purpose of modern medical research isn't even to improve the health of humans!

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Warrk] * 1
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here is a promise made to you by mainstream medical establishments, take this vaccine and it will confer immunity to this disease!

the incidence of many diseases, polio for example, were declining in number and severity on their own, and as a result of improved sanitation, before the polio vaccine was introduced.  it is ignorant and an oversimplification to say that human life span has increased for the sole reason that medical sciences and their interventions have been effective.  to go even further down the rabbit hole, there is evidence to justify the suspicion that the cause of polio is not even a virus!  i'm just using polio as an example, because polio led to the acceptance of mass vaccination.  it is always risky to tamper with the natural balance of forces in nature, but of course humans want to enjoy their self-congratulatory progress!

i'm glad that we agree that humans have been poisoning themselves.  among young adults, there are newly emerging and poorly understood syndromes of chemical sensitivity, chronic fatigue, and functional neurological diagnosis, which are disabling those who should be entering the prime of their life, by the millions, and despite understanding that humans are poisoning themselves, people will still blame it on “long covid” ?  are people really that disconnected from understanding the genesis of their own illness and pain? 

when the body speaks, the mind needs to listen.  here’s the problem with pain, humans are generally mentally challenged when it comes to listening to the language that the body speaks in.  any time there is pain, whatever is going on, needs to be stopped and assessed immediately, and the person in pain needs to decide what the message is that the pain is communicating.  pushing through pain may result in worse injury.  when humans become capable of listening to pain, then they can begin to turn things around.

the pain associated with the hpv injection is not normal im injection pain.  having a saline intramuscular injection, having that normal little pinch, is not the pain that is being referred to relative to the hpv injection site pain.  this is why they put the aahs in the placebo, so that the placebo recipients would also report pain as an adverse reaction, in order to normalize the pain of the non-placebo group!  owie pinchie you poked me with a needle is not the kind of pain that we are discussing here!

all protoplasm emits radiation, which oscillates cells in a dynamic equilibrium throughout the body. when these frequencies are disturbed the cells shift into an oscillatory disequilibrium and disease occurs.  when the electrical aspects of viruses have been studied, it has been shown that they steal electrical charges from ions in the fluid surrounding the cell.  it is known that microbes can be disintegrated with the correct value of shortwave frequency, and it has also been demonstrated that the lives of animals given a lethal dose of a pathogen can be saved by exposure to the correct single-wavelength electric charge.  microbes can be converted from one from to another through alterations in their environment.

i aim for optimal health with a natural approach, despite having multiple diseases!  i’ll let you know if i don’t end up living forever!

humans don’t need stem, they need G-d!!!

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: thealienthatategod] * 3
    #28110466 -

:tweak:


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: thealienthatategod] * 1
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thealienthatategod said:
here is a promise made to you by mainstream medical establishments, take this vaccine and it will confer immunity to this disease!



This is bullshit especially if you are referring to the Covid vaccines. Again, it has been covered before by others and you are simply bringing up points that have already been discussed and dismissed.

So your gripe about empty promises by the medical profession are misplaced because you do not understand or are deliberately ignoring the specifics about vaccines including their efficacy and what they can and can't do.

thealienthatategod said:
the incidence of many diseases, polio for example, were declining in number and severity on their own, and as a result of improved sanitation, before the polio vaccine was introduced.  it is ignorant and an oversimplification to say that human life span has increased for the sole reason that medical sciences and their interventions have been effective.



If you understand the history of medicine you will know that improvements in sanitation and personal hygiene were a direct result of science and medical practitioners making observations and then coming up with germ theory. Maybe what I said was an oversimplification but from your statement it would appear that you are the ignorant one. It wasn't a reiki healer or a naturopath who came up with the idea of washing hands. Take a read of this to get yourself up to date:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/18/keep-it-clean-the-surprising-130-year-history-of-handwashing

thealienthatategod said:
to go even further down the rabbit hole, there is evidence to justify the suspicion that the cause of polio is not even a virus!



Ummm... ok, if you say so lol.

thealienthatategod said:
i'm glad that we agree that humans have been poisoning themselves.  among young adults, there are newly emerging and poorly understood syndromes of chemical sensitivity, chronic fatigue, and functional neurological diagnosis, which are disabling those who should be entering the prime of their life, by the millions, and despite understanding that humans are poisoning themselves, people will still blame it on “long covid” ?  are people really that disconnected from understanding the genesis of their own illness and pain?



Don't get the 2 confused. There IS such a thing as long Covid, AS WELL AS humans poisoning themselves. If you confuse one for the other that's just demonstrating your ignorance.

thealienthatategod said:
all protoplasm emits radiation, which oscillates cells in a dynamic equilibrium throughout the body. when these frequencies are disturbed the cells shift into an oscillatory disequilibrium and disease occurs.  when the electrical aspects of viruses have been studied, it has been shown that they steal electrical charges from ions in the fluid surrounding the cell.  it is known that microbes can be disintegrated with the correct value of shortwave frequency, and it has also been demonstrated that the lives of animals given a lethal dose of a pathogen can be saved by exposure to the correct single-wavelength electric charge.  microbes can be converted from one from to another through alterations in their environment.



Sounds like quackery if you ask me.

thealienthatategod said:
i aim for optimal health with a natural approach, despite having multiple diseases!  i’ll let you know if i don’t end up living forever!



You don't have to let me know that, it is with 100% certainty that you will not live forever. No amount of wishful thinking, alternative therapies or praying is going to give you immortality even if you think you are an alien that ate God.

Perhaps it could be prudent to take a good hard look at why you are stricken with multiple diseases and rather than blame science and medicine maybe these other modalities you speak of are not quite what they have been cracked up to be?

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Warrk] * 1
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I feel like I'm back working on the psych ward any time I open this thread lately.

The confidence with which people say these batshit crazy and so easily falsifiable claims is just mind boggling :lol:

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Warrk]
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the experimental covid-19 mrna injection is not a vaccine!

relative to vaccines, from the u.s. department of health & human service website,

Quote:
how do vaccines work?

vaccines help your immune system fight infections faster and more effectively. when you get a vaccine, it sparks your immune response, helping your body fight off and remember the germ so it can attack it if the germ ever invades again. and since vaccines are made of very small amounts of weak or dead germs, they won’t make you sick.

vaccines often provide long-lasting immunity to serious diseases without the risk of serious illness.




i will use polio as an example of how the above is a fallacy.  before the polio vaccine was introduced,the polio death rate in the us was already declining on its own. after mass inoculations with the vaccine were rolled out, the number of reported cases of polio was significantly greater than before mass inoculation.  some health state departments in the 1950's even recognized that the polio vaccine was worthless as a preventative measure and dangerous to take.  however, drug companies with large investments in the vaccine coerced the us public health service into proclaiming the vaccine was safe and effective.
 
the issue is big pharma money and advertising influence the perception of illness.  the public health policies that are formulated are for increasing industry profit, because the government budgets are tied to this industry profit.

what is your understanding of how diseases originate?  your comments about long covid seem to indicate that you have a mono-causal one dimensional mindset about how these processes originate.  certainly improvements in standards of living during the industrial revolution in the middle of the 19th century explains why so called infectious diseases became a rarity in affluent societies, but as the natural sciences advanced, people began to fall under a spell of believing the dogma of a single cause for diseases, and this cause was decisively shaped by microbiology.

as koods pointed out in an earlier post, in the past four years life expectancy is now decreasing!  the current crisis in modern health is also one of quality of life and health span.  it is an epidemic of chronic non-communicable diseases.  as you pointed out, it used to be that humans would die of viruses and bacteria, but now it is chronic non-communicable diseases that are the leading killer!  non-communicable diseases are increasing in prevalence and severity, thanks to life within a techno-industrial society!

modern allopathic medicine has a such a poor understanding of non-communicable diseases that the best they can do is treat the symptoms, while creating a whole host of side effects in the process.  the best way to address non-communicable diseases is through lifestyle and nutrition, and i suppose that big pharma has not figured out a model where they can offer people this kind of treatment and still generate revenues in the billions.

nature is not a commodity!!!

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: thealienthatategod]
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Quote:
it used to be that humans would die of viruses and bacteria, but now it is chronic non-communicable diseases



Lol you’re so close to figuring this out


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods] * 1
    #28111142 -

Quote:
all protoplasm emits radiation, which oscillates cells in a dynamic equilibrium throughout the body. when these frequencies are disturbed the cells shift into an oscillatory disequilibrium and disease occurs. 



Gibberish


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: thealienthatategod] * 1
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thealienthatategod said:
as koods pointed out in an earlier post, in the past four years life expectancy is now decreasing!



Actually you posted this CDC report remember?

"Life Expectancy in the U.S. Dropped for the Second Year in a Row in 2021"

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28077662#28077662

And guess what? The same link that you posted had this to say:

"The declines in life expectancy since 2019 are largely driven by the pandemic. COVID-19 deaths contributed to nearly three-fourths or 74% of the decline from 2019 to 2020 and 50% of the decline from 2020 to 2021."

thealienthatategod said:
as you pointed out, it used to be that humans would die of viruses and bacteria, but now it is chronic non-communicable diseases that are the leading killer!



I did not I say that.

thealienthatategod said:
modern allopathic medicine has a such a poor understanding of non-communicable diseases that the best they can do is treat the symptoms, while creating a whole host of side effects in the process.  the best way to address non-communicable diseases is through lifestyle and nutrition, and i suppose that big pharma has not figured out a model where they can offer people this kind of treatment and still generate revenues in the billions.



Or how about "correct single-wavelength electric charge" therapy that you gushed about, would that also work for non-communicable diseases?

I shared the following article with my family a few months ago and I think it is something that could be useful to you, it is fair and balanced and makes some very good points. Yes, be suspicious of Big Pharma but be equally skeptical of Big Wellness, an industry worth $1.5 trillion in 2021! Personally I am more worried about Big Wellness because there are a greater number of shonky operators in that industry and fewer regulations and oversight compared to the pharmaceutical industry.

https://www.theage.com.au/lifestyle/health-and-wellness/how-instagram-helped-me-escape-the-1-trillion-wellness-industry-20220718-p5b2e7.html

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Warrk] * 1
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I don't understand why it is so hard to subject Rife or whomever to the Scientific Method, without any character assassination.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: durian_2008]
    #28111988 -

It's not the hill I want to die on. Just speaking matter-of-fact-ly.

Sound is conventionally known to affect osmotic pressure through a membrane.

It would make for a rich, high school, honor student level, science fair project -- filming the effect of a certain frequency upon a microscope slide.

Would the conformists sue that kid for a billion dollars or accuse him of sluggish schizophrenia?

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: durian_2008]
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The retail price for 30 days of generic truvada



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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/12/100-years-ago-this-week-us-packs-249-commie-bastards-on-the-red-ark-usat-buford-and-ships-them-off-to-russia/

Without Marxism, the treatment would have to compete for my business, in terms of efficacy and price -- no lockdowns, saboteurs, or struggle sessions to the point of societal collapse.

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