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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: J the Hesychast] * 1
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J the Hesychast said:
Thank you, I completely agree  ..

We get told to follow the science, but who's


A lot of the discussion about vitamin D starts with the assumption that whatever immune benefits have been demonstrated general translate into protection against covid. Then based on this assumption a secondary assumption is made that different rates of infections in different parts of the world and different racial groups might be explained by vitamin D deficiencies in those populations. This analysis always seems to ignore evidence to the contrary.

On one hand Hawaii has the lowest covid death rate in the country, but Arizona has the second highest.

After Hawaii, the states with the lowest death rates are Oregon, Maine, Alaska, Washington, Utah and Vermont. Literally some of the worst places in the world to get a sun tan.

Meanwhile, sunny states like Mississippi, Alabama and Louisiana are near the top.

If you want to try to explain the high covid death rates of high latitude countries with the vitamin D hypothesis, why are there so many exceptions?

Nothing wrong with supplementing vitamin D and keeping your levels up, but I really haven’t seen much evidence vitamin D has a discernible effect on covid rates.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods] * 2
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A really deep dive into the evolution of omicron and the evidence that it likely evolved in animals or an isolated immunocompromised community. Lots of discussion about the difference between genetic mutations that change amino acids and those that don’t. Because there are usually multiple genetic sequences that can encode for a single amino acid, about 1/4 of genetic mutations have no effect on the protein structure of the virus. By comparing the number of conformational mutations to ones that don’t change the structure, you can estimate the strength of selective pressure driving viral changes. Turns out omicron’s evolution cannot be explained through normal human to human transmission.



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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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If it's not Nurse John Campbell it's fake news

Fauci did omicron.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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koods said:
J the Hesychast said:
Thank you, I completely agree  ..

We get told to follow the science, but who's


A lot of the discussion about vitamin D starts with the assumption that whatever immune benefits have been demonstrated general translate into protection against covid. Then based on this assumption a secondary assumption is made that different rates of infections in different parts of the world and different racial groups might be explained by vitamin D deficiencies in those populations. This analysis always seems to ignore evidence to the contrary.

On one hand Hawaii has the lowest covid death rate in the country, but Arizona has the second highest.

After Hawaii, the states with the lowest death rates are Oregon, Maine, Alaska, Washington, Utah and Vermont. Literally some of the worst places in the world to get a sun tan.

Meanwhile, sunny states like Mississippi, Alabama and Louisiana are near the top.

If you want to try to explain the high covid death rates of high latitude countries with the vitamin D hypothesis, why are there so many exceptions?

Nothing wrong with supplementing vitamin D and keeping your levels up, but I really haven’t seen much evidence vitamin D has a discernible effect on covid rates.




Don't limit your hypothesis solely on D3 through UVB there's some good research coming from Japan on supplemented Cholecalciferol . You need to seek 60-70nmol/L and will struggle to reach even 50 using sunlight alone regardless of latitude , especially with everyone's obsession with sun block

Also there's interesting data regarding frontline healthcare workers in Western Europe who in October 2020 implemented D3 supplements
throughout their hospitals !


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: J the Hesychast]
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Dr John Campbell . D3



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“Let him not brag of his progressive views, boast of his status as an academician or a recognized artist, a distinguished citizen or general. Let him say to himself plainly: I am cattle, I am a coward, I seek only warmth and to eat my fill.”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: J the Hesychast] * 1
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:kummeli:

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: feevers]
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At my hospital we had ~50 employees out with COVID 3 weeks ago. As one of multiple measures, staff were instructed to wear face shields going forward. This week we have 4 staff members out with COVID. Does this mean face shields helped prevent staff members from getting COVID? No, it means reactionary measures are often implemented past the point where they'd be particularly effective even if they were efficacious. Changes often don't exist in a vaccum either, other changes such as mandated n95 masks, increased testing, and a stricter visitor policy were also implemented simultaneously to the face shields and the natural drop in cases that was happening anyway.

Correlational and retrospective data very often has clear and obvious confounds when you take the small amount of time to think about what those confounds may be. The whole ivermectin craze was based around this kind of confounded data, not to mention the data which was simply just fraudulent to begin with and ended up being retracted. With vit D when you have large meta analyses which control for variables and emphasize data from randomized control trials saying something doesn't have a statistically significant effect, you shouldn't use a few lower quality correlative studies (while ignoring the other ones that say the opposite) to shape your opinion unless you're more into faith and belief in something you want to be true than following what the data say.

I'd love it if ivermectin worked, I'd love it if vitamin D worked, in my post history I'm pretty sure I've commented on both since the first research on them came out and I was pretty hopeful in the beginning. Once more data came in it was pretty easy to lump them into the growing pile of "miracle cures" that didn't actually hold any water. I don't think there's any harm in taking the recommended doses of either of them, but I do think there's a lot of negatives to the type of thinking that leads people to believe they're somehow safer by doing so.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: feevers]
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The percentage of vaccinated new cases has been steadily rising during the omicron wave in DC, from about 20% to 40% in the last month. Since it’s highly unlikely that omicron immunity in the vaccinated is waning that quickly, the most likely explanation is the unvaccinated population is running out of members who haven’t been infected. It could be the omicron wave is ending so quickly because there are no more seronegative people left in the population.

Because we count people as unvaccinated whether they have been infected or not, over time we are not comparing the immune naive population to the vaccinated population. Natural immunity in the unvaccinated population is making the vaccines appear less effective when you compare rates


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (02/04/22 11:00 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods] * 2
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I still think vitamin d deserves more well controlled studies. As a preventative measure, not a treatment. I don't take the stuff at all but it wouldn't hurt to dig a little deeper

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: morrowasted] * 2
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I take vitamin d and zinc supplements because why not?


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods] * 1
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Because supplements are the wild west

I take the d morning and night though


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And I don't know what the mantis is praying for
But he's probably just thanking the Lord
That he don't live in a home
And he don't got a phone
And he don't sit around all angry and bored
(He's just a bug)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: gopher] * 1
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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 1
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So basically I'm going to type a lot of information ; some of it good, some bad, BUT ALL OF IT IS MY OPINION.

COVID IZ BAD
MANDATES ARE HORRIBLE
People BELIEVE ANYTHING
AND DONT EVER WATCH THE NEWS.  If you can watch any channel of mainstream news without scoffing every few seconds, you are brainwashed


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theRealrollforever said:
That’s not possible; even with computers

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: gopher] * 1
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gopher said:
I take the d morning and night though



Wait, do you mean the dick , or vitamin D?



It's chatted in circled that the vitamin D is actually sexual health.




So would a healthy sexual existence replace natural sunlight or vit. D sups?


I think not.


Interesting context poast none the less


This post has no scientific basis because male orgasm does not produce vitamin D


Only things with the D do.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Fiery]
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:hahthatsrich:

Quote:
“Think back to caveman times, those MEN catching BACON out in the sun all day still needed the energy to come back and procreate to save their race. This is nature at its rawest.”

A vitamin D deficiency can cause low estrogen levels in women, which results in a low sex drive. It also has the same impact on men


https://nypost.com/2018/07/05/why-your-sex-life-probably-needs-a-little-more-vitamin-d/

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
I take vitamin d and zinc supplements because why not?



Exactly, if it doesnt help prevent covid at least it reduces your chance of having the common cold while you have covid.

Not even said in jest.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: morrowasted] * 1
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morrowasted said:
Yeah I wonder if there was anybody talking about that immediately after covid surfaced

What do you think, Asante? You recall anyone like that?



Its rational to knee jerk to Vit D3 with any respiratory virus because D3 seems well able in that department. Dr Campbell did very early on talk about it and urged the UK government to carry on with the program.

Lots of people have a D3 feficiency, especially the infirm, the obese and people of color. There is considerable overlap between that and the risk populations for serious Covid.

My doc identified a vit D deficiency and urged me to supplement, just prior to Covid. With covid I stepped it up and my health impoved as my blood value rose to higher normal.

Like Koods says, its good sense to do it.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Asante]
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8066091/

Glycyrrhizin Effectively Inhibits SARS-CoV-2 Replication by Inhibiting the Viral Main Protease

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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koods said:
morrowasted said:
spirit_shadow said:
I have not been sick at all and feel better than I did before I got covid, since having covid..... stonks :house:


I've heard it can do quite a number on the developing central nervous system


Not to mention what infection does to the immune system. Sars cov2 kills T-cells, just like HIV does. How many times can you get infected with the virus before you become so immunocompromised you start getting aids like symptoms?


All of them, Not to mention I don't give a fuck either way. If it's my time to go it's my time to go :house:


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: ApexIntelligence20] * 1
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ApexIntelligence20 said:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8066091/

Glycyrrhizin Effectively Inhibits SARS-CoV-2 Replication by Inhibiting the Viral Main Protease


Another thing that was discussed in previous iterations in this thread within weeks of COVID emerging.

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