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Re: Pholiotina cyanopus / Finland [Re: Duggstar]
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Duggstar said:
Cool, thanks for sharing! :cool:



Cheers Duggstar! :cheers:

There aren't too many observations per year of this species, so it's good to spread the awareness. Also there are probably not too many hunting or trying to find this species actively, because of the more easily available psychoactive species out there and some might be afraid of hunting these due to the deadly species in the genuses Conocybe and Pholiotina. Ofcourse I don't recommend going after Pholiotina cyanopus for a beginner who has a hard time differentiating or identifying little brown mushrooms in general, but once you find them the first time and study the key features this species becomes quite easy to identify even without picking them or seeing the blue bruising on the stipe. Also the known deadly poisonous species like Pholiotina rugosa or Conocybe tenera don't look anything like Pholiotina cyanopus. They're both generally larger and taller species, the former having also an annulus which lacks in Ph. cyanopus. Ofcourse there are probably other toxic species in these genuses and they're also a bit poorly known genuses, but I'm yet to find an exact look-a-like and as fragile species as Pholiotina cyanopus and I've handled a lot of Conocybe and Pholiotina species for comparison since I found these first time in 2014. If one finds a suspected Pholiotina cyanopus, I really really recommend getting familiar with the odor which has been very helpful key for identification if the stem breaks and you lose the blueing base of the stem. Most macroscopic descriptions of this species mention the odor being "not distinctive", but I strongly disagree with that and no other Conocybe or Pholiotina I've observed have had an odor anything similiar or as strong as this species.

ST1R said:
Just beautiful!!! Any habitat photos?



They are, aren't they? These grow on the side of the road and on the gravel edges of some forest paths. While the "side of the road" habitat isn't the most suitable for considering consumption, I'm not too worried about that. It's not that active of a road and I live in the countryside surrounded by the great wilderness, the nearest big city being like 50km away. I'm pretty sure that people who forage mushrooms in the surrounding nature of cities and towns or within the city limits, consume way more polluted mushrooms and in way more quantities weight-wise. I'll try to remember to get some more overview habitat shots next time I'm out.

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Re: Pholiotina cyanopus / Finland [Re: Duggstar]
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Duggstar said:
Cool, thanks for sharing! :cool:

ST1R said:
Just beautiful!!! Any habitat photos?



What do you mean? There's loads of habitat photos :confused:



like overview the area where he found these


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Re: Pholiotina cyanopus / Finland [Re: ST1R]
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We are early this year, like a month or so compared to my earlier finds. Found two specimens today exactly in the same spot on my yard as in the original post.



Going to check out the nearby habitats soon. :smile:

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Re: Pholiotina cyanopus / Finland [Re: velho] * 1
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Oh yes, it has begun! They're back on the side of the road. 20 or so spotted on a quick evening walk. :pipesmoke:



:sunny:

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Re: Pholiotina cyanopus / Finland [Re: velho]
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You are building quite a photo archive now. Nice that you have them reoccurring in your garden! :smile:
The place where I found mine stopped producing fruits several years ago.

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Re: Pholiotina cyanopus / Finland [Re: knarkkorven]
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This is active?

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Re: Pholiotina cyanopus / Finland [Re: InnerWisdom]
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Yes, check the bluing in #26172603 :smile:

It's just seldom one can find and pick enough for a trip, they are very very tiny.

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Re: Pholiotina cyanopus / Finland [Re: knarkkorven]
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knarkkorven said:
You are building quite a photo archive now. Nice that you have them reoccurring in your garden! :smile:
The place where I found mine stopped producing fruits several years ago.



Hey knarkkorven, nice to see you around! :hatsoff:
Yea gotta build that photo archive and collections. Last year I collected 450+ specimens and oh man was it awesome! It's starting to build up now in here, I've gotten around 30 specimens so far and everytime I go checking for them they have increased in numbers. It's nice to know now they occur in the same place, last year I missed the couple first weeks on the roadside hunt. Let's double the numbers this year! :grin:

Shame about your habitat stopped producing fruits. I'm pretty sure thought you will bump into them again at some point as you seem to find them in your P. semilanceata habitats. I've tried them a few times now and so far I've enjoyed it alot. Strong but smooth mellow ride without the P. semilanceata "mindfuck" and no nausea whatsoever. I'm planning on donating a collection into a local herbarium this year aswell.

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Re: Pholiotina cyanopus / Finland [Re: velho] * 1
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This thread is gold! Thank you for sharing!

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Re: Pholiotina cyanopus / Finland [Re: Jatzan] * 1
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I haven't been able to take much photos due to some issues with my phone, but holy shit there are a lot of these this year! I'm like a month early out there compared to last year and I have already collected 165 specimens. I have picked less than half of the finds everytime and I have also spreaded some caps around my yard. Hopefully there won't be any radical changes in the weather, so I'll still have another month or so to go. :pipesmoke:



More to come after I get my phone fixed or buy a new one.

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Re: Pholiotina cyanopus / Finland [Re: velho] * 2
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Really cool finds! :smile:


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Re: Pholiotina cyanopus / Finland [Re: Anglerfish]
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Anglerfish said:
Really cool finds! :smile:



For sure they are! Cheers Anglerfish! :cheers:

Here's one general habitat photo. These mushrooms grow on the side of the road here in the countryside of Northern Savonia, Finland.


They appear on the sandy part along the roadside and some of them also hide in the low vegetation. Gotta say the assumed rareness has taken a bit of a hit for me now as they appeared in the same place as last year and in great numbers again. I observed them also last year about 5km away from my house around a roadside parking area.

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Re: Pholiotina cyanopus / Finland [Re: velho]
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These disappeared completely couple of weeks ago, probably because it was so damn dry. Today I went for a short evening walk to see if they had come back, since there has been some rains lately. Managed to collect 98 specimens and left probably the same amount if not more behind. Seemed to be lots of pinning going on. :pipesmoke:



No in situation photos unfortunately as it started to get dark and after noticing a couple specimens I just wanted to try and collect as much as I can. I'll try to get out there again soon to get some more photos.

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Re: Pholiotina cyanopus / Finland [Re: velho]
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Wow! :smile:

:amusedapplause:

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Re: Pholiotina cyanopus / Finland [Re: knarkkorven]
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Damn, i need to find them. Nice collection :heart:


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Re: Pholiotina cyanopus / Finland [Re: ST1R] * 1
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Any chance you can send me some for study? at least a print maybe?  I would like to see if they have any toxic or poisonous compounds since so little is known about their edibility.


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Psilocybe cubensis data collection thread. please help with this project if you hunt wild cubensis.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=26513593&page=0&vc=1#26513593

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Re: Pholiotina cyanopus / Finland [Re: velho]
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I have thrown them away. Foolish me


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Re: Pholiotina cyanopus / Finland [Re: Liberto]
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Pholiotina cyanopus is back again and really early this year! This is the first time I observe them in June, my previous record was 11th of July last year. Two days ago me and my friend went to see if they are already showing up and we both thought that it was way too early. We managed to walk only about 30m from my yard before bumping into them. Only 6 specimens observed so far, but I'm quite positive they'll show up in hundreds this year also. A couple of the specimens were already going past their prime, so they have probably fruited a week or so ago.



It has been extremely warm spring and summer in here so far and this species likes it warm. A really great start for the season and I'm sure there'll be more to come. :sunny:

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Re: Pholiotina cyanopus / Finland [Re: velho]
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Nice. That's very early!

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I'm quite positive they'll show up in hundreds this year also



Yeah. Keep up the good faith. :smile:
The only habitat I found went from 100 to 5 to 1 to 0 and then never returned. I hope yours will last a long time! But you seem to be finding new spots on your yard and the surrounding terrain, am I correct?

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Re: Pholiotina cyanopus / Finland [Re: knarkkorven]
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knarkkorven said:
Nice. That's very early!



Cheers knarkkorven! After the previous finds they disappeared completely. It was very hot and dry July, +30 degrees celsius all the time and no rains whatsoever. Now there has been some rains and the temps dropped a bit. They are back!



Ten specimens or so observed on a short walk. Looks promising!

knarkkorven said:
The only habitat I found went from 100 to 5 to 1 to 0 and then never returned. I hope yours will last a long time! But you seem to be finding new spots on your yard and the surrounding terrain, am I correct?



I've been finding them last year way away from my nearby habitats, but not in great numbers yet. I've been eyeballing my yard everyday and hoping they will appear this year aswell, hopefully in greater numbers.
You will bump into them again eventually, got to keep up the faith. :sunny:

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