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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
    #26677436 - 05/17/20 06:33 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

This is just your opinion, it is not mine.


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26677501 - 05/17/20 07:00 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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...to try and get them to lie under oath is unacceptable behavior.



That's not what happened though.



Offering immunity for Michael Flynn's son in exchange for Michael Flynn pleading guilty seems to be coercive behavior.  :shrug:



That's not any more coercive than what happens to literally tens of thousands of defendants every day.  Why should Flynn be special?


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
    #26677783 - 05/17/20 09:30 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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How was the investigation a failure? they got to the bottom of some criminal activity. Even if they didn’t, an investigation that doesn’t find any criminal activity isn’t a failure. Investigations are about fact finding.



How was an investigation into links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump, which found nothing on the subject matter, a failure?  :flowstone:


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26677796 - 05/17/20 09:40 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

So, you think there was collusion? If there wasn't, the investigation was a success.


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
    #26677927 - 05/17/20 11:33 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I’ve never seen people complain about things going their way like the trump crowd


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
    #26677962 - 05/18/20 12:11 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: cannabinated]
    #26677966 - 05/18/20 12:20 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

57 min he gets into the why's

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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: cannabinated] * 1
    #26677969 - 05/18/20 12:23 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)



the CIA is fake news

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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26677989 - 05/18/20 12:44 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Once the powerful made their billions and became 'oligarchs', Putin told them they would have to pay their taxes just like everyone else.  LONG after that happened, Bill Browder decided he wanted to screw the Russian people out of $230 million in taxes.  Do you see the difference, or should I explain it further?





So Trump was the deaf dumb part of a tax fraud? ok  :thumbup:

Thanks for clarifying.

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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: cannabinated]
    #26677992 - 05/18/20 12:48 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

The first interview was a bit too long for me to watch.

I loved the second interview.  :thumbup:


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Stable Genius]
    #26677994 - 05/18/20 12:49 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Once the powerful made their billions and became 'oligarchs', Putin told them they would have to pay their taxes just like everyone else.  LONG after that happened, Bill Browder decided he wanted to screw the Russian people out of $230 million in taxes.  Do you see the difference, or should I explain it further?




So Trump was the deaf dumb part of a tax fraud? ok  :thumbup:

Thanks for clarifying.



I don't understand what you just said.  Can you please rephrase it?  :shrug:


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26678008 - 05/18/20 01:01 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

So Trump was like a deaf dumb patsy, with no idea he was helping rich Russians move money out of Russia which may or may not have been illegal, which effectively meant they paid less tax.

He just had no idea?

One serious question. Do you believe he wasn't targeted by a criminal network? Due to his company being well known for 'lax reporting'. It looks to me like he was :shrug:

Source; I can find a link to those terms

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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Stable Genius] * 1
    #26678026 - 05/18/20 01:23 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Wait, do we know Trump was helping rich Russians move their money out of Russia, or was he just taking their money to either invest in his own company or pay himself for using his name?  If it's the former, you're just speculating, correct?

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One serious question. Do you believe he wasn't targeted by a criminal network? Due to his company being well known for 'lax reporting'. It looks to me like he was :shrug:



No, I don't think so.  People may have invested money with Trump who had shady backgrounds, but he wasn't doing any criminal activity with Russians that I'm aware.

This is likely an establishment fairy tale (fake news), unless someone is able to prove otherwise.  I'm sure the Government has investigated him very thoroughly.


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
    #26678051 - 05/18/20 01:49 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yes of course I'm speculating, and I also accept that shenanigans have gone on when it comes to the politics, the spooks etc, the whole thing never ceases to amaze me.

I'm still skeptical however when it comes to the amount of shady people he found himself involved with, just saying. He appeared to be tripping over shady characters everywhere.

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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Stable Genius] * 1
    #26678062 - 05/18/20 02:09 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Welcome to America where instead of thinking rationally the thoughts of one side are completely ignored or exonerated and you do mental gymnastics to let one side get away with all kinds of hainus shit.

Same could be said about both the right and the left. The fact the remains tho that people who are ideologically left are harder to get along with because they arent open minded at all and they have to have their way and no way else. Kinda like a 5 year old throwing a temper tantrum except its a grown adult.


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Stable Genius]
    #26678063 - 05/18/20 02:09 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

And of course I'm just speculating that he wasn't involved in any criminal activity with the Russians.  I think after a massive investigation into anything about Trump that could have hurt his reputation, they would have found something by now.

I'm not against the investigation, but burden of proof falls with the person making a claim, innocent until proven guilty, and all that jazz.  :shrug:


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Ovoidhunter]
    #26678266 - 05/18/20 06:28 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Easy now, no need for insults.  Left or right extremists are irrational imo.


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: meltdowner] * 1
    #26678578 - 05/18/20 09:43 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Says the guy who wants Obama executed


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
    #26678656 - 05/18/20 10:24 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Back in the day, all it took was a rope and a solid tree branch.  Now we got all these laws and shit.

I'm pretty sure MAGA is just code for "The South Will Rise Again!"


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
    #26678709 - 05/18/20 10:45 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Oh come on , it took more than a rope and a tree to have a lynching . They were organized affairs that drew large crowds . You had to advertise in the local newspaper ,hire caterers , a hangman , a talented speaker to orate the event . The whole community pitched in .


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