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Possible Matsutakes, NW Oregon.
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I've been photoscanning as many mushroom species I can find this year and I'm 99% certain I've found my first ever Matsutakes. However where I found them has pretty much the full spectrum of Amanitas: muscaria, gemmata, farinosa, and silvicola(basically a shorter version of smithiana) and another 2 I haven't identified yet. Initially I thought they were large silvicolas as they also grow on the same dirt bank, hence my concern.

Habitat:
Growing roadside on a dirt bank inside exposed/partially buried roots, pine woods.

Spore print color:
Didn't make one, but I can try tomorrow if needed. Most likely white.

Bruising:
Gills seem to bruise a bit pinkish/light brown when handling.

Smells a bit musky and of cinnamon/anise. Found 2 in a cluster.

Here is my scanned model of one, I can upload the other if needed.

Tricholoma murrillianum

Some photos of this one as well:






Edited by BinaryEclipse (10/24/19 05:27 AM)

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Re: Possible Matsutakes, NW Oregon. [Re: BinaryEclipse]
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I think so.


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Re: Possible Matsutakes, NW Oregon. [Re: Joie]
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Me2 but not 100% sure


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Re: Possible Matsutakes, NW Oregon. [Re: Doc9151]
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I pick Matsutake and I'm willing to say yes, indeed that is one. It's a bit older than choice (which would be unopened caps), but it doesn't look super dirty or at all rotted. You might have to slice off some of the gills - it's nearly impossible to get the grit out after they've opened, but they still taste quite nice.

The giveaways that I can see that a Matsutake and not an Amanita are the stipe that tapers to a point and has a little ashy deposit on the tip. That sort of gluey-gooey veil remnant. The other ones that I cannot confirm over the internet.... the smell - there is nothing else in the forest that  I've ever smelled that smells like a Matsutake, and if you've ever smelled one before you will recognize it. The firmness. Amanita will generally feel insubstantial - light and like it's going to break apart in your hand. Matsutakes are heavy for their size, very firm, the stipe rarely ever breaks off when you pull them up, unless it's really stuck in and you are quite rough.

This isn't the best pic ever.... but here's a bucket full I picked last year to compare


and here's a side by side comparison of an old Matsutake and and an old Amanita smithiana - yes they do get a bit leery - similar, but once you are familiar with them, making this mistake should not be possible...
http://www.alpental.com/psms/PNWMushrooms/PictorialKey/Tricholoma/Amanita_smithiana_and_Matsutake%20Marian%20Maxwell.htm


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Disclaimer - I'm just a hobbyist and cannot absolutely guarantee any ID offered. I'm most familiar with the species found in the Pacific Northwest - those found in other parts of the world may vary considerably, so always do your own research to find out what grows in your area and what lookalikes you need to be aware of. Understand that many mushroom species cannot be 100% reliably identified by photographs alone, even by an expert, so it may not be possible to go beyond suggesting a probable genus.

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Re: Possible Matsutakes, NW Oregon. [Re: Magic Badger]
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Thanks guys, I'm probably not going to eat them anyways because bugs have gotten to them already(that's probably a good sign though right?)

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Matsutakes are heavy for their size, very firm, the stipe rarely ever breaks off when you pull them up, unless it's really stuck in and you are quite rough.


I should've mentioned this, but the stems are very thick/tough, maybe even thicker than most russulas I've found. Not at all squishy like an amanita would be.

Edited by BinaryEclipse (10/24/19 06:01 PM)

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