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Re: Trump invited Islamic terrorists to Camp David [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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I’ve already said these things and given several examples. I’m not sure what you’re looking for buddy


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Re: Trump invited Islamic terrorists to Camp David [Re: koods]
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koods said:
qman said:
koods said:
If government procurers and agency heads are directing business to Trumps properties, then its illegal. Imagine if trump still sold bottle water and suddenly when he become president, it became good practice to buy Trump water. Maybe nobody directed the procurers to select the trump brand because it will curry favor with the boss and or at least look good to the president,m. How do other businesses compete with that? This is ridiculous, companies owned by the president cannot be getting government contracts or business. It’s a no brainer. Never was this a practice anyone would approve of before Trump. There is nothing vague about this kind of corruption. How is this a partisan issue now?



So has Trump officially broken any laws then?



Article II section 1 US constitution.
Quote:
The President shall, at stated Times, receive for his Services, a Compensation, which shall neither be increased nor diminished during the Period for which he shall have been elected, and he shall not receive within that Period any other Emolument from the United States, or any of them.



Article I section 9
Quote:
No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.



For reference the word emolument means “payment”

If the federal government is paying any money to trumps personal businesses, it is illegal. If foreign governments pay any money to trumps personal businesses, it is illegal.

The text is pretty clear. The president cannot supplement his income receiving payments from the federal government or a state government while he is in office. His salary is the only legal payment.



I understand what you're stating, but I'll ask the same question again-did Trump officially break any laws then?

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Re: Trump invited Islamic terrorists to Camp David [Re: qman]
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How does one "officially break any laws"?

Donnie has not been found guilty in a court of law.

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Re: Trump invited Islamic terrorists to Camp David [Re: qman]
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qman said:
koods said:
qman said:
koods said:
If government procurers and agency heads are directing business to Trumps properties, then its illegal. Imagine if trump still sold bottle water and suddenly when he become president, it became good practice to buy Trump water. Maybe nobody directed the procurers to select the trump brand because it will curry favor with the boss and or at least look good to the president,m. How do other businesses compete with that? This is ridiculous, companies owned by the president cannot be getting government contracts or business. It’s a no brainer. Never was this a practice anyone would approve of before Trump. There is nothing vague about this kind of corruption. How is this a partisan issue now?



So has Trump officially broken any laws then?



Article II section 1 US constitution.
Quote:
The President shall, at stated Times, receive for his Services, a Compensation, which shall neither be increased nor diminished during the Period for which he shall have been elected, and he shall not receive within that Period any other Emolument from the United States, or any of them.



Article I section 9
Quote:
No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.



For reference the word emolument means “payment”

If the federal government is paying any money to trumps personal businesses, it is illegal. If foreign governments pay any money to trumps personal businesses, it is illegal.

The text is pretty clear. The president cannot supplement his income receiving payments from the federal government or a state government while he is in office. His salary is the only legal payment.



I understand what you're stating, but I'll ask the same question again-did Trump officially break any laws then?



Well I think he officially handed the business over to his sons...I dont know if that means he gave up all ownership or what...


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Re: Trump invited Islamic terrorists to Camp David [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
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koods said:
qman said:
koods said:
If government procurers and agency heads are directing business to Trumps properties, then its illegal. Imagine if trump still sold bottle water and suddenly when he become president, it became good practice to buy Trump water. Maybe nobody directed the procurers to select the trump brand because it will curry favor with the boss and or at least look good to the president,m. How do other businesses compete with that? This is ridiculous, companies owned by the president cannot be getting government contracts or business. It’s a no brainer. Never was this a practice anyone would approve of before Trump. There is nothing vague about this kind of corruption. How is this a partisan issue now?



So has Trump officially broken any laws then?



Article II section 1 US constitution.
Quote:
The President shall, at stated Times, receive for his Services, a Compensation, which shall neither be increased nor diminished during the Period for which he shall have been elected, and he shall not receive within that Period any other Emolument from the United States, or any of them.



Article I section 9
Quote:
No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.



For reference the word emolument means “payment”

If the federal government is paying any money to trumps personal businesses, it is illegal. If foreign governments pay any money to trumps personal businesses, it is illegal.

The text is pretty clear. The president cannot supplement his income receiving payments from the federal government or a state government while he is in office. His salary is the only legal payment.



I understand what you're stating, but I'll ask the same question again-did Trump officially break any laws then?



Well I think he officially handed the business over to his sons...I dont know if that means he gave up all ownership or what...



Yeah, that's an excellent point.

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Re: Trump invited Islamic terrorists to Camp David [Re: qman]
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Trump did not divest his business holdings. He transferred them to a revocable trust of which he is the sole owner. His sons and another unnamed person manage the trust.


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Re: Trump invited Islamic terrorists to Camp David [Re: Brian Jones]
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If his trust is earning income in any way with taxpayer dollars, he might be breaking the law. If he is encouraging people in the military to stay at his hotels, he's more than likely breaking the law. I mean if his secret service guys' rooms are paid for by tax dollars while he stays at one of his resorts theres definitely conflict of interest there. Especially when,in that situation he could just let them stay for free. It's probably a very case by case thing, and in most cases he probably has quite a few degrees of deniability. Like I hope to god he wasnt stupid enough to send a memo out to all government agencies saying there would be a discount at his hotels for government emoyees....I wouldn't be surprised if that happened though.


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