Asante said:

I would really like to see this as I grew up loving the music by that artist.

He's probanly guilty as sin yes, but I still want to see it with me own eyes.

Is Leaving Neverland online somewhere?

Probably will kill my mood but I gotta see it.

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tyrannicalrex said:

It's on my watch list. I believe what the victims say, period. He was a very freaky weird person and I do not, nor did I ever idolize him. Some of his songs are ok, but I never placed him a pedestal of being some super performer like he was portrayed in the media/life. His parents are partly to blame or mostly for the way he was I think. Especially his dad. Then when surrounded by fame and money he could just pay off lackeys and sycophants that would do anything for money to cover any tracks or trace of his pedophilia.

Ever since that one 2 hour interview at neverland a few years ago where he said they (the kids) sleep in his bed sometimes, it was over for me in my head,that was an immediate conviction and I will never believe otherwise. AND they did find a secret room behind the back of a closet where there was a bunch of memorabilia, could have been a place where he did his deeds.

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tyrannicalrex said:

Yeah, but mcculkin is in some strange conspiracy BS involving hollywood/pedogate/pedowood. He also did that rogan podcast and he eluded to something very vaguely that he is at least very wealthy in spite of things that may or may not have happened. How does anyone know those 2 didn't sign an agreement for a lot of money? 12yo kids know what they are doing mostly sometimes and especially if they had been groomed and obviously been around many adults their whole lives including to their parents maybe agreeing to and signing something for a lot of money. Why is doing a band thing called "pizza underground"? Why did he post a vid of him eating a whole cheese pizza? Why is it mentioned in home alone (cheese pizza)?Why is he doing a voodoo donut thing when they are also implicated in the conspiracy about pedos?

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feevers said:

tyrannicalrex said:

Yeah, but mcculkin is in some strange conspiracy BS involving hollywood/pedogate/pedowood. He also did that rogan podcast and he eluded to something very vaguely that he is at least very wealthy in spite of things that may or may not have happened. How does anyone know those 2 didn't sign an agreement for a lot of money? 12yo kids know what they are doing mostly sometimes and especially if they had been groomed and obviously been around many adults their whole lives including to their parents maybe agreeing to and signing something for a lot of money. Why is doing a band thing called "pizza underground"? Why did he post a vid of him eating a whole cheese pizza? Why is it mentioned in home alone (cheese pizza)?Why is he doing a voodoo donut thing when they are also implicated in the conspiracy about pedos?

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I don't know about pizzagate, but it's completely possible he just didn't want it to effect his career. Being labeled as "the molested one" may sell a few books at first, but who knows how it'd play out long term. Especially when the one you're accusing has a billion supporters, many who are more then willing to send death threats to and stalk accusers.

It's also possible he was just never touched. MJ was truly a master manipulator, maybe he befriended a famous child and didn't molest him just because he knew he could use him to sway public opinion if other kids ever spoke out. Hell, he used the kids he did molest the same way, but with bribery and blackmail. Going up against one celebrity is tough, two is far worse.

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MoonFarmer said:

Co or Tx?

My youngest brother lives a few cities over.

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molesting a child dying of cancer who got to meet him through the make a wish foundation, and then ruining the child's life further once he went to the police.

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