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Ripple
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Jack Straw
#2517975 - 04/02/04 04:17 AM (20 years, 11 hours ago) |
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I hardly ever do this but what are your thoughts on the subject of this song? It's one of those tunes that has Jerry singing one part and Bobby singing the second person as Hunter loved to do! I know he discourages this type of analysis but
So Jerry (rest his soul) sings:
I just jumped the watchman, right outside the fence. Took his rings, four bucks in change, ain't that Heaven sent?
Bobby sings:
Hurts my ears to listen, Shannon, burns my eyes to see; Cut down a man in cold blood, Shannon, might as well been me.
in the next verse Bobby sings:
We used to play for silver, now we play for life; And one's for sport and one's for blood at the point of a knife. And now the die is shaken, now the die must fall. There ain't a winner in the game, he don't go home with all. Not with all.
Next in Harmony:
Leavin' Texas, fourth day of July, Sun so hot, the clouds so low, the eagles filled the sky. Catch the Detroit Lightnin' out of Sante Fe, The Great Northern out of Cheyenne, from sea to shining sea.
Next Jerry:
Gotta go to Tulsa, first train we can ride. Gotta settle one old score, one small point of pride.
Now Bobby:
There ain't a place a man can hide, Shannon will keep him from the sun Ain't a bed can give us rest now, you keep us on the run.
Then in Harmony:
Jack Straw from Wichita cut his buddy down, And dug for him a shallow grave and laid his body down. Half a mile from Tucson, by the morning light, One man gone and another to go, my old buddy you're moving much too slow.
We can share the women, we can share the wine.
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Krishna
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Re: Jack Straw [Re: Ripple]
#2518026 - 04/02/04 05:07 AM (20 years, 10 hours ago) |
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I like it quite a lot... I've heard some GREAT live takes of it... I especially dig the line "we can share the women we can share the wine." Never really tohught about the way that the vocal harmonies go... I'll take another listen to it now and let you know what I think.
After this Eyes of the World Jam is finished, though
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Re: Jack Straw [Re: Krishna]
#2518147 - 04/02/04 07:12 AM (20 years, 8 hours ago) |
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I've got the 17-04-1972 video. Don't know the location though.
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Ripple
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Re: Jack Straw [Re: Merkin]
#2518236 - 04/02/04 08:09 AM (20 years, 7 hours ago) |
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Acording to Deadbase X the date was payed at Trivoli Concert Hall in Copenhagen Denmark.
Does the first set start with Cold Rain and Snow?
oh yes the notes say that this show was broadcast on TV .....in three parts but it started after the end of the first set.
First He's Gone!!
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Krishna
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Re: Jack Straw [Re: Merkin]
#2518642 - 04/02/04 10:48 AM (20 years, 5 hours ago) |
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Haha! My friends mother was at that show in tivoli. Do you have a .avi or .mpeg version of it that I might download and burn from you to give to her?
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Merkin
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Re: Jack Straw [Re: Krishna]
#2523933 - 04/04/04 06:49 AM (19 years, 11 months ago) |
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ummm, sorry guys havent been responding, I've just arrived back from the fucking craziest road trip to date. fucken above movie material, this was simply exegeration. too much, comedy, hysteria, flipping over cars, getting lost in the forest, serach team coming after us. lots of weed, beer.. mountain biking, eating wild berries....
anyway lol..
Yeah, Ripple, and Krishna, I only have the video of that song itself, not the full show. It's MPEG file.
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Re: Jack Straw [Re: Merkin]
#2523946 - 04/04/04 07:18 AM (19 years, 11 months ago) |
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This is truly a awsome song, i love it! at times in 1978-1980 Bob Weir sang "We used to play for acid ..." and "... now we play for Clive" (a reference to Clive Davis, the boss of Arista Records)--one example was 1 November 1979 Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum Uniondale, NY
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Re: Jack Straw [Re: kindkesey]
#2524057 - 04/04/04 09:10 AM (19 years, 11 months ago) |
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I love it when they switch up the lyrics... I've heard a version of that Dylan song (what the hell is it called?!) where the lyric is supposed to be "and my best friend my doctor won't even tell me what it is i've got" and the Dead sing "and my best friend my drummer won't even tell me what it is i've dropped!"
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Re: Jack Straw [Re: kindkesey]
#2524321 - 04/04/04 11:55 AM (19 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Jack Straw [Re: kindkesey]
#2524347 - 04/04/04 12:09 PM (19 years, 11 months ago) |
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I didn't know they did alternate lyrics like that. I gotta here that. I love Jack Straw it's one of my favorites. It's such a great story about partners in crime. I was talking with a friend about this song the other day and he was saying how he doesn't like the lyrics because he doesn't agree with the viewpoint. He didn't like the "We can share the women we can share the wine." I had to explain to him that it's not the Dead equating women with objects, it's a character in the song. It's a song about rotten people (one a little more rotten than the other). Then a little light went on in his head and now I think he has new appreciation for the song. He's kinda new to the Dead but I've been slowly nurturing his growing appreciation for their music. He's going to Bonnaroo with me and after that then he'll be completely turned on.
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notapillow
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one of my most vav songs especialy when the band is way into it u get such an energy from them the show at shr line last summer has one of the best jack straws iv ever herd just amazing
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