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Re: White privilege for mixed parents? [Re: sprinkles]
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If people treat you better because of the color of your skin, that is white privilege.



So if I go to Africa and people treat me worse because of my skin color, does that mean I am a victim of black privilege? What about countries where whites are minorities?

Does privilege different per country or is it simply a characteristic of America?


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Re: White privilege for mixed parents? [Re: XUL]
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america is such a shitty & racist country.


the jews (rothschilds) own the media.  every news station is all backed by the same fucking ....  ugh nevermind.

Notice how white men are shown as stupid?  made to look emasculated, weak, homosexual.  but black men are protrayed as very masculine and strong.  they flood the media with race mixing to the point where it is becoming almost wrong to be white.  I wont stand for it.  I hated white people more than anyone, now I am forced to love them just for this reason.  Which makes me hate  the people in power with money that much more.  fuck them all.  fuck them all to death.



let people have their scrap metal and cats ok?

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Re: White privilege for mixed parents? [Re: XUL] * 1
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XUL said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
If people treat you better because of the color of your skin, that is white privilege.



So if I go to Africa and people treat me worse because of my skin color, does that mean I am a victim of black privilege? What about countries where whites are minorities?

Does privilege different per country or is it simply a characteristic of America?



If you are treated better because of the color of your skin, you are privileged.  Why is that so difficult to understand?

Yes, it can vary by country.


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Re: White privilege for mixed parents? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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all the judges on tv are black women.


judges are a figure of authority, a black woman is the farthest thing from authority figure you can find.  not only that but they sound like they dont know how to speak english at all.  they say text texas, and month munt, its the dumbing down of america, and the education system right along with it.  guess who started americas public school system...  the rothschilds. 


KILL THE RICH (the same people who sell weapons to both sides who start wars for profit).  KILL THEM, the goldman/sachs and all their stupid friends and all the rich zionist jews.  do that and most or all of the worlds problems will be over.


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Re: White privilege for mixed parents? [Re: sprinkles] * 1
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i feel like having litters of white children.  I dont even care how defective they may become.  I want to have them simply to spite the people who continue to put white people down. You folks with your "white priv" pointed conversation.



America is controlled by nothing other than greed and the old mighty dollar. Nothing else matters.  not race, not millions dying, nothing. 


My kids would be Americas worst fucking nightmare. :typingdog:  they would never go to a fucking public school.  no one would have a chance to feed them the lies that I was told. no fkg way.

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Re: White privilege for mixed parents? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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If you are treated better because of the color of your skin, you are privileged.  Why is that so difficult to understand?

Yes, it can vary by country.



I wanted to boil down the definition with you.

I have heard other definitions in which white privilege was said to be a systemic privilege throughout the entire world.

Those people must be crazy. What do you think?


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Re: White privilege for mixed parents? [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
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If you are treated better because of the color of your skin, you are privileged.  Why is that so difficult to understand?

Yes, it can vary by country.



I wanted to boil down the definition with you.

I have heard other definitions in which white privilege was said to be a systemic privilege throughout the entire world.

Those people must be crazy. What do you think?



I think you have to look at each country individually and if one race can be shown to be treated better, then than race has "race" privilege.

I don't know if whites get preferential treatment throughout the world.


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Re: White privilege for mixed parents? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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I have blue eyes and have "blue eye privilege".  :awedance:

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Re: White privilege for mixed parents? [Re: qman]
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qman said:
I have blue eyes and have "blue eye privilege".  :awedance:



No no, we have blue eyes so we are underprivileged

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On the morning of april 5, 1968, a Friday, Steven Armstrong stepped into Jane Elliott’s third-grade classroom in Riceville, Iowa. “Hey, Mrs. Elliott,” Steven yelled as he slung his books on his desk.

“They shot that King yesterday. Why’d they shoot that King?” All 28 children found their desks, and Elliott said she had something special for them to do, to begin to understand the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. the day before. “How do you think it would feel to be a Negro boy or girl?” she asked the children, who were white. “It would be hard to know, wouldn’t it, unless we actually experienced discrimination ourselves. Would you like to find out?”

A chorus of “Yeahs” went up, and so began one of the most astonishing exercises ever conducted in an American classroom. Now, almost four decades later, Elliott’s experiment still matters—to the grown children with whom she experimented, to the people of Riceville, population 840, who all but ran her out of town, and to thousands of people around the world who have also participated in an exercise based on the experiment. (She prefers the term “exercise.”) It is sometimes cited as a landmark of social science. The textbook publisher McGraw-Hill has listed her on a timeline of key educators, along with Confucius, Plato, Aristotle, Horace Mann, Booker T. Washington, Maria Montessori and 23 others. Yet what Elliott did continues to stir controversy. One scholar asserts that it is “Orwellian” and teaches whites “self-contempt.” A columnist at a Denver newspaper called it “evil.”

That spring morning 37 years ago, the blue-eyed children were set apart from the children with brown or green eyes. Elliott pulled out green construction paper armbands and asked each of the blue-eyed kids to wear one. “The browneyed people are the better people in this room,” Elliott began. “They are cleaner and they are smarter.”




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She knew that the children weren’t going to buy her pitch unless she came up with a reason, and the more scientific to these Space Age children of the 1960s, the better. “Eye color, hair color and skin color are caused by a chemical,” Elliott went on, writing MELANIN on the blackboard. Melanin, she said, is what causes intelligence. The more melanin, the darker the person’s eyes—and the smarter the person. “Brown-eyed people have more of that chemical in their eyes, so brown-eyed people are better than those with blue eyes,” Elliott said. “Blue-eyed people sit around and do nothing. You give them something nice and they just wreck it.” She could feel a chasm forming between the two groups of students.

“Do blue-eyed people remember what they’ve been taught?” Elliott asked.

“No!” the brown-eyed kids said.

Elliott rattled off the rules for the day, saying blue-eyed kids had to use paper cups if they drank from the water fountain. “Why?” one girl asked.

“Because we might catch something,” a brown-eyed boy said. Everyone looked at Mrs. Elliott. She nodded. As the morning wore on, brown-eyed kids berated their blue-eyed classmates. “Well, what do you expect from him, Mrs. Elliott,” a brown-eyed student said as a blue-eyed student got an arithmetic problem wrong. “He’s a bluey!”




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Then, the inevitable: “Hey, Mrs. Elliott, how come you’re the teacher if you’ve got blue eyes?” a brown-eyed boy asked. Before she could answer, another boy piped up: “If she didn’t have blue eyes, she’d be the principal or the superintendent.”

At lunchtime, Elliott hurried to the teachers’ lounge. She described to her colleagues what she’d done, remarking how several of her slower kids with brown eyes had transformed themselves into confident leaders of the class. Withdrawn brown-eyed kids were suddenly outgoing, some beaming with the widest smiles she had ever seen on them. She asked the other teachers what they were doing to bring news of the King assassination into their classrooms. The answer, in a word, was nothing.




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Back in the classroom, Elliott’s experiment had taken on a life of its own. A smart blue-eyed girl who had never had problems with multiplication tables started making mistakes. She slumped. At recess, three brown-eyed girls ganged up on her. “You better apologize to us for getting in our way because we’re better than you are,” one of the brownies said. The blue-eyed girl apologized.

On Monday, Elliott reversed the exercise, and the brown-eyed kids were told how shifty, dumb and lazy theywere. Later, it would occur to Elliott that the blueys were much less nasty than the brown-eyed kids had been, perhaps because the blue-eyed kids had felt the sting of being ostracized and didn’t want to inflict it on their former tormentors.




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When the exercise ended, some of the kids hugged, some cried. Elliott reminded them that the reason for the lesson was the King assassination, and she asked them to write down what they had learned. Typical of their responses was that of Debbie Hughes, who reported that “the people in Mrs. Elliott’s room who had brown eyes got to discriminate against the people who had blue eyes. I have brown eyes. I felt like hitting them if I wanted to. I got to have five minutes extra of recess.” The next day when the tables were turned, “I felt like quitting school. . . . I felt mad. That’s what it feels like when you’re discriminated against.”




https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/lesson-of-a-lifetime-72754306/
would also put a youtube of Behind Blue Eyes in here, but am doing my best to keep web traffic down until tomorrow

think of it this way
privilege is really just a metric of how likely your day to day encounters are to be with someone who 'looks like you'
since people instinctively act at a tribal level, we instinctively divide ourselves by race as it is readily visible

people who refuse to recognize tribalism in the human experience instead label tribal preference as privilege

as a white Canadian, am more privileged on a global scale than a white American
not because of looking 'more authentically white' than an American
but because my political system and governments positions are in line with those of a number of European nations
while United States politics are more isolationist
big friendly Canadian privilege

claims about people having particular privilege is just a way for the global elite
to shit all over us peasants learning the importance of gratitude

"Thankful for the things in your life? 
You shouldn't be, you should only be thankful for things you earn and you are privileged and given everything"

and since they push it while also pushing a narrative of divisiveness
it gets into a bunch of people as a guilt complex --
effectively, the global elite wants us to feel guilty for the policies the global elite forces upon us
anything to foster bickering
:cookiemonster:

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That might have been the end of it, but a month later, Elliott says, Johnny Carson called her. “Would you like to come on the show?” he asked.

Elliott flew to the NBC studio in New York City. On the “Tonight Show” Carson broke the ice by spoofing Elliott’s rural roots. “I understand this is the first time you’ve flown?” Carson asked, grinning.

“On an airplane, it is,” Elliott said to appreciative laughter from the studio audience. She chatted about the experiment, and before she knew it was whisked off the stage.

Hundreds of viewers wrote letters saying Elliott’s work appalled them. “How dare you try this cruel experiment out on white children,” one said. “Black children grow up accustomed to such behavior, but white children, there’s no way they could possibly understand it. It’s cruel to white children and will cause them great psychological damage.”

Elliott replied, “Why are we so worried about the fragile egos of white children who experience a couple of hours of made-up racism one day when blacks experience real racism every day of their lives?”




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The people of riceville did not exactly welcome Elliott home from New York with a hayride. Looking back, I think part of the problem was that, like the residents of other small midwestern towns I’ve covered, many in Riceville felt that calling attention to oneself was poor manners, and that Elliott had shone a bright light not just on herself but on Riceville; people all over the United States would think Riceville was full of bigots. Some residents were furious.

When Elliott walked into the teachers’ lounge the next Monday, several teachers got up and walked out. When she went downtown to do errands, she heard whispers. She and her husband, Darald Elliott, then a grocer, have four children, and they, too, felt a backlash. Their 12-year-old daughter, Mary, came home from school one day in tears, sobbing that her sixth-grade classmates had surrounded her in the school hallway and taunted her by saying her mother would soon be sleeping with black men. Brian, the Elliotts’ oldest son, got beaten up at school, and Jane called the ringleader’s

mother. “Your son got what he deserved,” the woman said. When Sarah, the Elliotts’ oldest daughter, went to the girls’ bathroom in junior high, she came out of a stall to see a message scrawled in red lipstick on the mirror: “Nigger lover.”




:thatsinteresting:

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Re: White privilege for mixed parents? [Re: Tantrika]
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Jane Elliott is a nut job.

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Re: White privilege for mixed parents? [Re: Tantrika]
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Yeah, stupid lady. Everyone knows it's lefties that drag society down.


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Re: White privilege for mixed parents? [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
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If people treat you better because of the color of your skin, that is white privilege.



So if I go to Africa and people treat me worse because of my skin color, does that mean I am a victim of black privilege? What about countries where whites are minorities?

Does privilege different per country or is it simply a characteristic of America?



I would say that depends.

Assuming you get to go home from this place in Africa...

Do they seem to have a better life than you at home?
Worse?
More or less opportunities?

If coming back to the States are you gonna be better off?

If so that's a privilege. You could call it American privilege. I'm not arguing that being white is the only privilege. Just that white privilege exists.

You could do this same experiment in the US by going into black neighborhood near where you live. I've been in some black neighborhoods where I felt very welcome and comfortable. First time this happened it surprised me. I've lived in mixed suburban neighborhoods, but not black neighborhoods. Those experiences challenged my prejudices and altered my point of view.

Of course I've also been in black neighborhoods where I felt anything but welcome. More like I,'better get the fuck out of here'.

Why are these neighborhoods so different?

I doubt it's genetic. I think it's cultural.

Why are the cultures different?

I think each one has it's own story.

Would growing up in these neighborhoods be a disadvantage?

I think the answer is yes, to different degrees.

Why are these neighborhoods almost all black?

The evidence I've seen is that they were systematically and institutionally put there.


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Re: White privilege for mixed parents? [Re: Thundermuscle75]
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Couldnt you have posted this in your other "i dont understand what white privilege means" thread?


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Re: White privilege for mixed parents? [Re: qman]
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qman said:
Jane Elliott is a nut job.



why?

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Re: White privilege for mixed parents? [Re: XUL] * 2
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XUL said:
Because a person's race is based off their parents, a person may inherit the color of white into their family tree, thus making them prosper more because they are tied to white privilege. They themselves are also half white.



That is one of the stupidest things I've seen you post.  Race is not based on parentage.  It is based on perception.  It is a social construct.  At one time, 1/8 black meant someone was black.  Some people still think that way.  The bottom line is that race is defined solely by culture. There is no scientific, genetic, or familial basis for race.


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Re: White privilege for mixed parents? [Re: Enlil]
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:booooom:

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Re: White privilege for mixed parents? [Re: Enlil]
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That is one of the stupidest things I've seen you post. Race is not based on parentage.  It is based on perception.  It is a social construct.  At one time, 1/8 black meant someone was black.  Some people still think that way.  The bottom line is that race is defined solely by culture. There is no scientific, genetic, or familial basis for race.



Since you wanted to bring out the personal attacks and essentially call me stupid, I think you are pretty fucking retarded for refuting genetics. You are an educated man who cannot comprehend what genetics even mean. You must have skipped biology class! 

What you are essentially saying is that white, a skin color, has nothing to do with the genetics between two parents. The term "white" privilege is about a color of skin, which begs the question of what happens when our skin is mixed. How does our skin become mixed? Yes, through genetics. Biology 101. 

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Race is not based on parentage.



Yes it is. Explain to me how skin color (pigmentation) has no basis in genetics.

Is there a genetic difference in skin color when two half white parents birth a child as compared to one white and one Asian? Or are you arguing that you can only have white privilege if you have two white parents?

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It is based on perception.



The perception of who? You must be the arbiter of perception.

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familial basis for race.



Sure there is. Look at the U.S. census: people will be listed by skin colors/race.

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It is a social construct.



Well then, why don't all white people just identify as black people? This kind of thing is supported by the left.

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Some people still think that way.



No shit Sherlock. Because skin color is genetic.

Pick up a biology book and stop spewing garbage based on your feelings about how culture is supposed to work.

You are a good guy, but right now you are laughable.


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Re: White privilege for mixed parents? [Re: XUL] * 3
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XUL said:
Enlil said:
Race is not based on parentage.  It is based on perception.  It is a social construct.  At one time, 1/8 black meant someone was black.  Some people still think that way.  The bottom line is that race is defined solely by culture. There is no scientific, genetic, or familial basis for race.



What you are essentially saying is that white, a skin color, has nothing to do with the genetics between two parents. The term "white" privilege is about a color of skin, which begs the question of what happens when our skin is mixed. How does our skin become mixed? Yes, through genetics. Biology 101.



No, you completely missed Enlil's point which is exactly correct.  White privilege is based solely on one's pereception of race.

If you don't like the fact that someone is 1/8 black and decide not to hire him for that reason, it doesn't matter that he was 7/8 white - you discriminated against him because of your perception of him, and an 8/8 white person benefited from white privilege.  The perception might be different for everyone, and many people won't care at all.  The point is that people who are perceived as black (even if they only have black sounding names) aren't always treated fairly as the call-back study clearly proved.  That's white privilege.


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Re: White privilege for mixed parents? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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White privilege is based solely on one's pereception of race.




That is the worst definition I have ever heard.

This means the definition of white privilege could differ in America some 325 million ways.


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