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Re: Vermiculite and Heavy Metals causing Alzheimers ? [Re: chibiabos]
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Aluminum is soluble in water to the parts per billion range...about 5ppb in sea water, up to 400ppb in rain water.

It is detectable in water.


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Re: Vermiculite and Heavy Metals causing Alzheimers ? [Re: trendal]
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Exactly. Testing water chemistry is exactly the only way you could notice it since the sensitivities are in the ppb to ppt range


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Re: Vermiculite and Heavy Metals causing Alzheimers ? [Re: trendal]
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Vermiculite isn't a salt of aluminum.  It has a totally different mode of bonding.  You people are really worrying about nothing.  Unless you're grinding up rocks in order to huff them then vermiculite isn't going to hurt you.

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Re: Vermiculite and Heavy Metals causing Alzheimers ? [Re: chibiabos] * 1
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Oh, don't get me wrong here...I in no way think that aluminum is harmful to you :wink:

As koods pointed out earlier, dietary sources of aluminum account for the bulk of our aluminum intake. The amount of aluminum we eat each day is actually quite large. The kidneys are very adept at excreting this aluminum, so much so that it exists only at trace levels in the human body.


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Re: Vermiculite and Heavy Metals causing Alzheimers ? [Re: trendal]
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A friend used to use aluminum trays and each time after the first flush there were holes and corrosion in the tray. So I assume that the mycelium has some ability to dissolve the metal and incorporate it in its growth. Growing bigger mycelium and fruits (as stated in the study).

After digging a bit deeper, the researchers still don't know if it is safe or not.

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Aluminum is environmentally ubiquitous, providing human exposure. Usual human exposure is primarily dietary. The potential for significant Al absorption from the nasal cavity and direct distribution into the brain should be further investigated. Decreased renal function increases human risk of Al-induced accumulation and toxicity. Brain Al entry from blood may involve transferrin-receptor mediated endocytosis and a more rapid process transporting small molecular weight Al species. There appears to be Al efflux from the brain, probably as Al citrate. There is prolonged retention of a fraction of Al that enters the brain, suggesting the potential for accumulation with repeated exposure. Al is a neurotoxicant in animals and humans. It has been implicated in the etiology of sporadic Alzheimer's disease (AD) and other neurodegenerative disorders, although this is highly controversial. This controversy has not been resolved by epidemiological studies, as only some found a small association between increased incidence of dementia and drinking water Al concentration. Studies of brain Al in AD have not produced consistent findings and have not resolved the controversy. Injections of Al to animals produce behavioral, neuropathological and neurochemical changes that partially model AD. Aluminum has the ability to produce neurotoxicity by many mechanisms. Excess, insoluble amyloid beta protein (A beta) contributes to AD. Aluminum promotes formation and accumulation of insoluble A beta and hyperphosphorylated tau. To some extent, Al mimics the deficit of cortical cholinergic neurotransmission seen in AD. Al increases Fe-induced oxidative injury. The toxicity of Al to plants, aquatic life and humans may share common mechanisms, including disruption of the inositol phosphate system and Ca regulation. Facilitation of Fe-induced oxidative injury and disruption of basic cell processes may mediate primary molecular mechanisms of Al-induced neurotoxicity. Avoidance of Al exposure, when practical, seems prudent.

PMID: 11130287



https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11130287

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