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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Tipote]
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Tipote said:
qman said:
that doesn't even mean they're real "Nazis"


Please define what you call real Nazis.


They live in Germany a long time ago and actually acted on their ideology with the support of the German government and general public.

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
Tipote said:
I'm sure there was some self defense at the rally but any violence coming to Nazis is justified.



I find this position to be reprehensible and indefensible. That pretty much makes you as much of a bigot as the Nazis.


Should counter protesters just stand there and get fucked up?


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: qman]
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That post was in response to this statement of yours:

qman said:
"They attacked people"

Mostly in self defense as they were attacked first, the MSM didn't like it when Trump pointed out this reality.

Utude took down most of the videos showing this truth in very short order, I wonder why?



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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: qman]
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qman said:
Tipote said:
qman said:
that doesn't even mean they're real "Nazis"


Please define what you call real Nazis.


They live in Germany a long time ago and actually acted on their ideology with the support of the German government and general public.


So they have to be in Germany? Are ideologies geographically-fixed?


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Tipote] * 1
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Tipote said:
Enlil said:
Tipote said:
I'm sure there was some self defense at the rally but any violence coming to Nazis is justified.



I find this position to be reprehensible and indefensible. That pretty much makes you as much of a bigot as the Nazis.


Should counter protesters just stand there and get fucked up?


Move them goal posts much? Just admit that you hold racist views toward white people.


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Tipote] * 1
    #24761963 -

Tipote said:
Should counter protesters just stand there and get fucked up?


you're acting like the counter protesters didn't attack first.

Bubbles85 said:
Tipote said:
Enlil said:
Tipote said:
I'm sure there was some self defense at the rally but any violence coming to Nazis is justified.



I find this position to be reprehensible and indefensible. That pretty much makes you as much of a bigot as the Nazis.


Should counter protesters just stand there and get fucked up?


Move them goal posts much? Just admit that you hold racist views toward white people.


indeed

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
Tipote said:
Should counter protesters just stand there and get fucked up?


you're acting like the counter protesters didn't attack first.


Please view this and then recalibrate.


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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shivas.wisdom said:
qman said:
I can't attack someone because I THINK they might do something to me because of their ideology.


So am I correct to assume you would be alright with a radical mosque that only preaches violent jihad but doesn't participate in any violence directly?


Once they're in the US, UK or EU legally, most of their radical rhetoric is allowed under the law.That's why I don't want them here in the first place.

No group can attacked them and be protected under the law, it doesn't work that way.

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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Unarmed? Didn't those people have sticks? Weren't they gassing people with pepperspray? It's almost as if they showed up to incite violence and get a reaction.


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
Tipote said:
Should counter protesters just stand there and get fucked up?


you're acting like the counter protesters didn't attack first.


Youre acting like there is a problem with fucking up Nazis who want to march in your town.

There was always going to be a clash since the police did nothing.

There were groups on the ground who did report violence from Nazis when peacefully protesting, and there were antifascists bringing some violence to Nazis in defense and offense.

Bubbles85 said:
Move them goal posts much? Just admit that you hold racist views toward white people.


You dont understand the definition of racism.

How am I racist against white people?


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Edited by Tipote (11/05/17 05:45 PM)

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Tipote]
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Tipote said:
Enlil said:
Tipote said:
I'm sure there was some self defense at the rally but any violence coming to Nazis is justified.



I find this position to be reprehensible and indefensible. That pretty much makes you as much of a bigot as the Nazis.


Should counter protesters just stand there and get fucked up?


That has nothing to do with your statement "any violence coming to Nazis is justified". 

You didn't put any conditions on that statement, don't back down from your position because of our judgments on you, stand proud.

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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shivas.wisdom said:
So the night before (while the fascist horde had no idea what kind of resistance they would face the next day), upon finding a group of unarmed UVA students, and outnumbering them vastly, the gang of torch-wielding white nationalists were forced to surround and attack in self-defence? What physical resistance offered, what provocation to be blamed, for attacking a group of unarmed, unmasked, and nonviolent protesters?

Qman, these are your nazis:




I mean.. white lives matter right? :shrug:
I feel bad for all of those dudes, they need someone to blame for why their lives didn't turn out the way they think they ought to have. Everyone has to blame someone, I guess it's easier than working towards a better life.


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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nope. not gonna "recalibrate".

your people were there to "defend" a statue they were "defending" to thereafter DESTROY- which means they, the rally, were doing what the police refused to do, and that's protect that property they the taxpayers PAID FOR- you live in a DEMOCRATIC NATION OF LAWS- you DEBATE, you use YOUR WORDS- and ever since people started SUPPORTED TRUMP OPENLY, let alone wearing hats with MAGA on it, even before his election to be president, and ever since then ANTIFA have been roving around- SJWs have been anti-free-speech craptivists even years before all this, too, exacerbating the anti-right-wing sentiment all the more, you "anarchists" in ANTIFA, and COMMUNISTS there too, have been IN THE STREETS on the PROWL, and you all openly ADMIT IT, to STIFLE people's rights to expression and free speech and assembly, FOR A WHOLE LOT LONGER, and PISSING PEOPLE OFF. if you don't get that then you're hopeless.

i'm warning you. that video you said to watch...they were DEFENDING THE CITIES PROPERTY, which they all helped pay for...it's their right to stop you. even if they get arrested doing so- just like it's your right to try and destroy a statue, but yet...oh i really want to see people be sued and arrested, seriously, because ANTIFA only rarely (but arcanely enough, they still do) get busted for anything- cause you're all masked, and you know you perform criminal acts for the sake of propaganda of the deed.

no one "should"  have attacked...but no one "should" have been there at the statue either- if the city permitted it, it's a sham, because the rally was already permitted to be there, that was the whole point- your people shouldn't have been there and they were, to instigate, agitprop, and then, after all is said and done, have the statue taken down, eventually.

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Youre acting like there is a problem with fucking up Nazis who want to march in your town.


CIA, don't let this man near the constitution, he'd burn it all down if he could.

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There were groups on the ground who did report violence from Nazis when peacefully protesting, and there were antifascists bringing some violence to Nazis in defense and offense.


not before Charlottesville. don't cherry pick. and if they were protesting in the rally's zone, they weren't permitted to be there counter-protesting.

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: TempestDnB]
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tax payers didn't pay for the statue I'm pretty sure.

TempestDnB said:
I mean.. white lives matter right? :shrug:
I feel bad for all of those dudes, they need someone to blame for why their lives didn't turn out the way they think they ought to have. Everyone has to blame someone, I guess it's easier than working towards a better life.


yeah.. thats what Nazis and their allies are doing. :shrug:


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: qman]
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qman said:
You didn't put any conditions on that statement, don't back down from your position because of our judgments on you, stand proud.


I have no problem with offensive and defensive violence against Nazis.


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Tipote]
    #24762005 -

Tipote said:
tax payers didn't pay for the statue I'm pretty sure.


they pay to maintain it. that's it, you're done with this speculation.

TempestDnB said:
I mean.. white lives matter right? :shrug:
I feel bad for all of those dudes, they need someone to blame for why their lives didn't turn out the way they think they ought to have. Everyone has to blame someone, I guess it's easier than working towards a better life.


yeah.. thats what Nazis and their allies are doing. :shrug:



you call every one nazis. white nationalists...they are not nazis. if you think so, you're being deluded.

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Tipote] * 1
    #24762013 -

Tipote said:
akira_akuma said:
Tipote said:
Should counter protesters just stand there and get fucked up?


you're acting like the counter protesters didn't attack first.


Youre acting like there is a problem with fucking up Nazis who want to march in your town.

There was always going to be a clash since the police did nothing.

There were groups on the ground who did report violence from Nazis when peacefully protesting, and there were antifascists bringing some violence to Nazis in defense and offense.

Bubbles85 said:
Move them goal posts much? Just admit that you hold racist views toward white people.


You dont understand the definition of racism.

How am I racist against white people?



Yeah, there is a problem with fucking up "Nazis" that paid for a permit to legally protest. Where is your compassion? These are confused and angry people, and a minority. But they are also Americans and they have the same rights as me. This is going to sound weird, but you sound like a Nazi, talking about fucking up people who are protesting because you don't agree with them (they're confused people, they need taken out for a beer, shown some love). They're fucking human beings. Be a more mature human being.


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
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akira_akuma said:
Tipote said:
tax payers didn't pay for the statue I'm pretty sure.


they pay to maintain it. that's it, you're done with this speculation.


Say what you mean then. That wasn't what you said.
akira_akuma said:
you call every one nazis. white nationalists...they are not nazis. if you think so, you're being deluded.


I quite clearly said Nazis and their allies. Why are you always bending over backwards to dilute criticism against obvious Nazis and KKK. Really, what on earth happened to you?


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Tipote] * 1
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Tipote said:
qman said:
You didn't put any conditions on that statement, don't back down from your position because of our judgments on you, stand proud.


I have no problem with offensive and defensive violence against Nazis.


you're starting the war...and this is a lie, "defensive violence". you incited it, started it, conflagrated it. anarchist crimes occur...black crimes occur...white supremacists & black supremacists crimes occur...some crimes occur where the perpetrator is a black nazi.

the fact is, you have zero clue how to correlate all of these issues into a tagline "muh nazi bands"...um no, the only bands that existed until you pushed the fucking most fringe elements on the right out of the woodwork with your cringey ultra-post-leftist lunacy, you initiated it all!

but you guys think anarchy is "cool".

well, so do dumb nazis think their ideology is cool. same difference in the fact that they think it's cool but they re dangerous ideologies that make people act out in anti-social ways. but now you're gonna say some...some shit...go ahead.

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Say what you mean then. That wasn't what you said.


waffling. what i said and what i mean are synonymous with what was evinced.

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I quite clearly said Nazis and their allies. Why are you always bending over backwards to dilute criticism against obvious Nazis and KKK. Really, what on earth happened to you?


no one is allied with nazis but fascists. you are deluded as usual. continue.

even they had the usual ideological spats. of course.
Evola is a good read against Fascism and Nazism and Christianity, too, thank goodness.

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: TempestDnB] * 2
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You talk about these "Nazis" as if they're less than human, as if they should be rounded up and shot or something. You sir sound like a bigot.


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