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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: TempestDnB] * 1
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shivas.wisdom said:
No, but if your priorities mean you will march with nazis to protect some statues, rather than confront nazis marching, intimidating, and attacking, than your priorities are misplaced - wtf is wrong with all these kids on the right treating fascists as political allies? If you treat a nazi as an ally, don't be surprised when you receive the nazi vip treatment too.


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TempestDnB said:
I care about the Robert E Lee statues. Would I be a Nazi if I went to protest them putting those statues in the dump instead of a museum? And anyways, wtf is wrong with all these kids on the left beating and pepper spraying innocent Americans? That's some Nazi shit, using violence against people you don't agree with.


Why do you care so much about these statues? Taking them down doesn't change history, it changes what parts of history we celebrate. All these confederate statues were only there in the first place because the "daughters of the confederacy", a racist lobby, ran around trying to change how history was remembered. They put statues everywhere and even regulated textbooks in the South - to change how the following generations viewed the history of the civil war, whitewashing slavery.

Do you want to celebrate the defense of slavery? or is there anything better in history you want to commemorate with a statue?


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
It's Ok To Be White


*flame removed*


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Tipote]
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don't insult me, that's against the rules. don't be ableist now.

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: akira_akuma]
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What do you think of this?

Do you understand why people would have a problem with it?


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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Just because I'm there because I care about these old statues does not mean I am a Nazi and that I chose to go to March with Nazis specifically. And ya know what? At least the goddamn Nazis got a permit, unlike that violent mob that is antifa. What percentage of the protesters were even Nazis anyways? I'm pretty sure it wasn't a lot, but it's been made to sound like a lot because everyone who doesn't adhere to the current progressive ideology is a Nazi.


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: TempestDnB] * 2
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TempestDnB said:
Just because I'm there because I care about these old statues does not mean I am a Nazi and that I chose to go to March with Nazis specifically. And ya know what? At least the goddamn Nazis got a permit, unlike that violent mob that is antifa. What percentage of the protesters were even Nazis anyways? I'm pretty sure it wasn't a lot, but it's been made to sound like a lot because everyone who doesn't adhere to the current progressive ideology is a Nazi.


The mean the torchlit march of people chanting "Jews/You will not replace us" and "Blood and Soil" (that lovable Nazi slogan)?
The ones Seig Heiling and sporting trendy flags with swastikas? They attacked people, dude.

Wtf Why were you there? Why do you care so much about statues that are there to commemorate the defense of slavery in the South?:crazy2:


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: TempestDnB]
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I think what the left forgets is that Nazis are national socialists. Not too fucking far off from what the radical left is. Before you know it they're going to take away your right to have opinions. I'll get stoned to death for not playing into someone's gender dysphoria. It's going to be great.


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: TempestDnB] * 2
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TempestDnB said:
Just because I'm there because I care about these old statues does not mean I am a Nazi


I never said that you would be - but if you consider the removal of confederate army statues to be worse than nazis openly gathered in the streets, your values are dangerously misplaced.


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: TempestDnB] * 3
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TempestDnB said:
Just because I'm there because I care about these old statues does not mean I am a Nazi and that I chose to go to March with Nazis specifically. And ya know what? At least the goddamn Nazis got a permit, unlike that violent mob that is antifa. What percentage of the protesters were even Nazis anyways? I'm pretty sure it wasn't a lot, but it's been made to sound like a lot because everyone who doesn't adhere to the current progressive ideology is a Nazi.


"that I chose to go to March with Nazis specifically"

Well, that's a very fine line you're walking when you go and do that action.

If they're carrying and wearing Nazi symbols, that's getting pretty close in my opinion. They're entitled to do so and that doesn't even mean they're real "Nazis", but again it's a fine line.

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Tipote] * 1
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Tipote said:
TempestDnB said:
Just because I'm there because I care about these old statues does not mean I am a Nazi and that I chose to go to March with Nazis specifically. And ya know what? At least the goddamn Nazis got a permit, unlike that violent mob that is antifa. What percentage of the protesters were even Nazis anyways? I'm pretty sure it wasn't a lot, but it's been made to sound like a lot because everyone who doesn't adhere to the current progressive ideology is a Nazi.


The mean the torchlit march of people chanting "Jews/You will not replace us" and "Blood and Soil" (that lovable Nazi slogan)?
The ones Seig Heiling and sporting trendy flags with swastikas? They attacked people, dude.

Wtf Why were you there? Why do you care so much about statues that are there to commemorate the defense of slavery in the South?:crazy2:


"They attacked people"

Mostly in self defense as they were attacked first, the MSM didn't like it when Trump pointed out this reality.

Utude took down most of the videos showing this truth in very short order, I wonder why?

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: TempestDnB] * 1
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TempestDnB said:
I think what the left forgets is that Nazis are national socialists. Not too fucking far off from what the radical left is. Before you know it they're going to take away your right to have opinions. I'll get stoned to death for not playing into someone's gender dysphoria. It's going to be great.


This does come up from time to time but I should tell you now - it is not correct that the Nazis were socialist even if they called themselves national socialists. They used elements of socialism to get the people on board but Nazism is clearly on the far-right. That is why they now fall under the umbrella of the "alt-right" nowadays.


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Tipote]
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Tipote said:
What do you think of this?

Do you understand why people would have a problem with it?


loaded question, really. of course i understand why they have a problem with it. well, if they have a problem with promoting "whiteness", then white people have a problem with whoever is decrying from promoting their own race in the same order of logic. :shrug: either people learn to get along, like i keep saying, or no. you chose. it's your side that started all this "whiteness is bad mmmkay" bullshit. well, if "whiteness is x" then "blackness is also x", if x is some stereotypical BROAD STROKES BULLSHIT about an entire RACE.

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: qman]
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qman said:
"They attacked people"

Mostly in self defense as they were attacked first, the MSM didn't like it when Trump pointed out this reality.


I'm sure there was some self defense at the rally but any violence coming to Nazis is justified.

Why weren't the police doing anything?

Trump tried to give moral equivocation between Nazis violence and antifascist groups violence, they are not equal.

Does this look like self defense?






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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
Tipote said:
What do you think of this?

Do you understand why people would have a problem with it?


loaded question, really. of course i understand why they have a problem with it. well, if they have a problem with promoting "whiteness", then white people have a problem with whoever is decrying from promoting their own race in the same order of logic. :shrug: either people learn to get along, like i keep saying, or no. you chose. it's your side that started all this "whiteness is bad mmmkay" bullshit. well, if "whiteness is x" then "blackness is also x", if x is some stereotypical BROAD STROKES BULLSHIT about an entire RACE.


I'll take that as a no..


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: qman] * 2
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So the night before (while the fascist horde had no idea what kind of resistance they would face the next day), upon finding a group of unarmed UVA students, and outnumbering them vastly, the gang of torch-wielding white nationalists were forced to surround and attack in self-defence? What physical resistance offered, what provocation to be blamed, for attacking a group of unarmed, unmasked, and nonviolent protesters?

Qman, these are your nazis:



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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
that doesn't even mean they're real "Nazis"


Please define what you call real Nazis.


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Tipote] * 2
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Tipote said:
I'm sure there was some self defense at the rally but any violence coming to Nazis is justified.



I find this position to be reprehensible and indefensible. That pretty much makes you as much of a bigot as the Nazis.


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Tipote]
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Tipote said:
qman said:
"They attacked people"

Mostly in self defense as they were attacked first, the MSM didn't like it when Trump pointed out this reality.


I'm sure there was some self defense at the rally but any violence coming to Nazis is justified.

Why weren't the police not doing anything?

Trump tried to give moral equivocation between Nazis violence and antifascist groups violence, they are not equal.

Does this look like self defense?



"any violence coming to Nazis is justified"

That's why you're a radical.  Violence isn't justifiable unless it's in self defense, otherwise you're now attacking innocent people.

"Why weren't the police not doing anything?"

Who knows, why didn't the police in Berkeley do anything as Antifa destroyed public property and attacked innocent people who wanted to attend a university lecture?

"they are not equal"

Again, you're being intellectually dishonest. They're exactly equal in nature when they physically attack people because of their ideology.

I can't attack someone because I THINK they might do something to me because of their ideology. You're no different than the people you're trying to stop.  :shrug:  In fact much worse because most of them aren't Nazis, they're white nationalists.

"Does this look like self defense?"

Is trading Utube videos going to solve this? No, they're both doing the same shit.

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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shivas.wisdom said:
So the night before (while the fascist horde had no idea what kind of resistance they would face the next day), upon finding a group of unarmed UVA students, and outnumbering them vastly, the gang of torch-wielding white nationalists were forced to surround and attack in self-defence? What physical resistance offered, what provocation to be blamed, for attacking a group of unarmed, unmasked, and nonviolent protesters?

Qman, these are your nazis:



The nutcases in Antifa aren't any better.  :shrug:

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: qman] * 2
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qman said:
I can't attack someone because I THINK they might do something to me because of their ideology.


So am I correct to assume you would be alright with a radical mosque that only preaches violent jihad but doesn't participate in any violence directly?


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