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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Liverwort] * 1
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Capers said:
Look around you. I experience it every time I apply for a grant or scholarship, I experienced it while applying to graduate school, and if I go into academia or the public sector, I will experience it as I search for jobs.


So, because you got rejected, it's someone else's fault.


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Enlil] * 1
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Stop playing dumb. He means public black intellectuals/community leaders.


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
qman said:
So black leadership never demanded harsher drug laws to stop the crack crisis in the 80's?


I don't even know what you mean by black leadership.


i told you what he means already. he means senators, educators, lawyers, ect, anyone in the civic body who works towards that end in which you both speak of.

Enlil said:
Capers said:
Look around you. I experience it every time I apply for a grant or scholarship, I experienced it while applying to graduate school, and if I go into academia or the public sector, I will experience it as I search for jobs.


So, because you got rejected, it's someone else's fault.


not what he is saying.

boy strawman much when you're cornered?

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: akira_akuma]
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See why I'm confused.  You have one answer.  Capers has a different one.  I'm trying to figure out what qman means.


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Liverwort]
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public intellectuals/community leaders = anyone of in the civic body who works towards such ends as....

Capers said:
Stop playing dumb.


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
ted, it's someone else's fault.


When less qualified people are being chosen instead, yes, it is partially someone else's fault.


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Enlil]
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See why I'm confused.  You have one answer.  Capers has a different one.  I'm trying to figure out what qman means.


http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/08/16/212620886/the-shift-in-black-views-of-the-war-on-drugs

"Congressional Black Caucus"

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: akira_akuma] * 3
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akira_akuma said:
i told you what he means already.


this subforum in a nutshell.


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: qman] * 1
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Enlil said:
See why I'm confused.  You have one answer.  Capers has a different one.  I'm trying to figure out what qman means.


http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/08/16/212620886/the-shift-in-black-views-of-the-war-on-drugs

"Congressional Black Caucus"


So, you think 8% of the senate and 10% of the house hold all of the power?  I'm pretty sure it takes more than that to pass a law.  What makes you think they are to blame for the racist sentencing guidelines?


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Enlil]
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They aren't racist. They are, as they should be, prejudiced against crack users, who can be of any race. It's not the lawmakers' fault that blacks make bad choices and use crack disproportionately.


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Liverwort] * 3
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I would expect a racist to have that opinion, but the truth of the matter is that the law has a disparate impact on the different races because of the perception that a crackhead is more of a danger to society than a person who uses blow.  That perception is based on racial bias.


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
akira_akuma said:
i told you what he means already.


this subforum in a nutshell.


if only people knew how to think.

Edited by akira_akuma (11/02/17 05:13 PM)

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
qman said:
Enlil said:
See why I'm confused.  You have one answer.  Capers has a different one.  I'm trying to figure out what qman means.


http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/08/16/212620886/the-shift-in-black-views-of-the-war-on-drugs

"Congressional Black Caucus"


So, you think 8% of the senate and 10% of the house hold all of the power?  I'm pretty sure it takes more than that to pass a law.  What makes you think they are to blame for the racist sentencing guidelines?


Well, if we asked the whole Congress for their support on this matter, wouldn't they say well black leaders don't/do support your cause, therefore will can't/can do it.

As you can see, black leadership has already changed its original position on the drug war.

They are at least partial blame.

http://www.npr.org/2017/07/17/537715793/how-black-leaders-unwittingly-contributed-to-the-era-of-mass-incarceration

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: qman] * 1
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Why does it matter what skin color the lawmakers have?  How does that make a law any more or less racist?


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
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Capers said:
Look around you. I experience it every time I apply for a grant or scholarship, I experienced it while applying to graduate school, and if I go into academia or the public sector, I will experience it as I search for jobs.


After hundreds of years of favouring white people over black regardless of merit, do you really think that you are disadvantaged because you are white? :eek:

As a white person you had a head start, but even with your advantage you still cry racism because now you have a very slightly decreased advantage.

If what you said is true, then why aren't people of colour dominating spheres of influence in the US? After all, they do have "institutional favouritism" in the favour.. :facepalm::lol:

akira_akuma said:
all around you. if you can't just look it up on youtube or google, or believe people when they tell you first hand, then you're already unable to be reasoned with.



So you want me to take the word of privileged white people about perceived bias but ignore the lived experience of black people over generations? And shall I ignore the statistics that show racial disparity? Or are you going to be like qman now and say its down to genetic inferiority?

PS. Akira, please dont bother making elaborate posts for me with videos etc because I never click on them.


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Tipote]
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So you want me to take the word of privileged white people about perceived bias but ignore the lived experience of black people over generations?


no, just do more research, notice the contradictions in logic and rationale, learn that black people are not oppressed "structurally" and that they have to learn to deal with words- and when it comes to the police effecting blacks communities more, they have to learn to deal with their communities, that's why. not because cops are the problem. some problem cops are a problem, but see, i see enough of this shit, and alot of it is just strictly unreasonable. sorry. but instance after instance tells me that it's cops just doing their job and there is someone losing their shit- when it's unjust, i've been known to make my classic akira stinks about it- so don't worry, that doesn't stop, just because i am saying black people, when it comes to "white privilege", are full of shit- alot of black people agree with me (you won't watch those videos, right? you want me to...fetch one?)


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And shall I ignore the statistics that show racial disparity? Or are you going to be like qman now and say its down to genetic inferiority?


what racial disparity exactly? you have to be specific; you ain't gon be getting rid of ALL racial disparity, that's for sure. it's futile. look at Japan, they have bery bery little. you can understand why.
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PS. Akira, please dont bother making elaborate posts for me with videos etc because I never click on them.


your loss.

your fateful limen of misapprehension will lamplessly guide you.

Edited by akira_akuma (11/02/17 06:00 PM)

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Enlil]
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Why does it matter what skin color the lawmakers have?  How does that make a law any more or less racist?



Isn't that the basis of the Congressional Black Caucus?


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: SirTripAlot]
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It is?


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Enlil]
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https://cbc.house.gov/about/

In the bullet points it states criminal justice reform. The body has no legislative power...just influence correct?


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: SirTripAlot]
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The members have legislative power, but no more so than anyone else in congress.


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